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How bout Ahman vs. Ryan Grant

Ryan 72 - 305 4.2 1 TD Receiving 17 - 90

Ahman 70 - 260 3.7 2 TD 14-123

Damn ewe ROTTT
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Thompson obviously made the right decision with Green. He got a ridiculous amount of money to leave. If the money would have been the veterans minimum or a little above, he'd have been a great player to have around. If nothing else, he'd be a great third down back. I still worry about having Grant and Brandon Jackson responsible for blitz pickups which is something that Green was experienced at.
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I liked The Tubes... produced by Todd Rundgren.


I liked the Completion Backwards Principle....sounds like something to do with football doesn't it?
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Originally posted by Hungry5:
I liked The Tubes... produced by Todd Rundgren.


I liked the Completion Backwards Principle....sounds like something to do with football doesn't it?


I didn't know Fee Waybill was a Vikings fan.
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Houston's Green won't play against Saints
AP, Nov 16, 2007
Texans running back Ahman Green won't play Sunday against New Orleans because of a swollen left knee. Coach Gary Kubiak was optimistic early in the week that rest during the bye week would allow Green to play. Kubiak said he wasn't sure how long Green will be out. "He has not responded here over the course of the last couple of weeks in the rest we have given him," Kubiak said Friday


Wow, that like what 4 games he's missed now? He's getting paid 8 mil+ for a season where he's racked up all of about 260 yards. Yikes, Shermans push for getting Ahman to the Texans backfiring big time.
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I don't want to hear any sh*t from anyone again about TT's reluctance to sign over the hill vets.
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I don't want to hear any sh*t from anyone again about TT's reluctance to sign over the hill vets.


Waddya wanna bet you will? Big Grin

It's too bad Green's apparently all done, but I'm glad he got his money, and that he got it from someone else's coffers and salary cap.
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I don't want to hear any sh*t from anyone again about TT's reluctance to sign over the hill vets.


Waddya wanna bet you will? Big Grin

It's too bad Green's apparently all done, but I'm glad he got his money, and that he got it from someone else's coffers and salary cap.


Me too.

I was happy for him when it happened. It was a business decision (both ways), it was nothing personal.

I'm just bummed we won't get a better compensatory pick (if we get one at all now) for letting him walk.

Fond memories, fear of the unknown, and the ability to pick up a blitz (when was the last time that was brought up around here anyway?) isn't worth $8 Million.
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Is anyone really surprised by this?
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I'm just bummed we won't get a better compensatory pick (if we get one at all now) for letting him walk.


I thought that was only based on the contract the departing player receives? Someone help me out here; I know the rules on this are a little fuzzy.
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Compensatory picks, are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. The placement of compensatory picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor.
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Compensatory picks, are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. The placement of compensatory picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor.


Thanks for the information.

Since salary is considered to be the primary factor, at least we'll still be getting something for him. I thought his level of success (besides postseason honors) with the new team was more of a factor.

Regardless, I sincerely doubt that whatever the "proprietary formula" is, that it could be worse than the scheduling rubric where we kept having to play the Cowboys in Dallas (seemingly) every year up until 1997.

Maybe not, since that's exactly where we're going the Thursday after turkey day.
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You could see this coming from a mile away. It's just not smart to give big money to running backs that age - even healthy ones. Seattle and Kansas City are currently learning that lesson the hard way.
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GREEN OUT AGAIN
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On the day that the Texans will welcome to Houston the running back over whom they passed at the top of the 2006 draft, the team won't have their big-money free-agent tailback . . . again.

Ahman Green will miss another game due to a knee problem. "He has not responded here over the course of the last couple of weeks in the rest we have given him," coach Gary Kubiak said Friday. "He came out, did a little bit yesterday. It did not respond. The knee swelled this morning, so he will be down and we'll work from there."

Green, a long-time Packer who got his start in Seattle, has rushed for only 260 yards on 70 carries this season for Houston.

Ron Dayne, the 1999 Heisman Trophy winner, will start in Green's place.


TT should have kept him? We are getting more yards from an unknown rookie/rookies. Combined, I dont think their salaries add up to what A.Green is getting.
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This thread is funny. I'm pretty sure that American pumpkin pie is pretty good.

About the rushing thing. One of the teams who runs the most often (NE - 5th in attempts) and one of the teams who runs the least (GB - 30th in attempts), have a combined 17-1 record. So much for success in rushing being a predictor of NFL success. If that were true, Minnesota with their 5.8 yards per carry average would be undefeated.

How a team uses the running game in context with their overall offense and game plan is more important. So other stats are needed to figure out what a team is really doing - other than the surface things like wins & losses. But, then that is really what matters - right? So let AG go. Replacements will be found.

Remeber, TT only has another 12 picks (AT) to get it right next year.
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One of the teams who runs the most often (NE - 5th in attempts) and one of the teams who runs the least (GB - 30th in attempts), have a combined 17-1 record.


Interesting stat.

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Remeber, TT only has another 12 picks (AT) to get it right next year.


heheh Yeah he's done halfway decent with all the picks he's stockpiled so far.
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