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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by mayhem39:


I put very little blame on Favre in this whole mess. I know I'm in the minority on here with that opinion but that's what I see.

I'm not going to shout you down, unlike others on this board. I just want to know why you feel that way.

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Originally posted by Packermaniac:
I don't get why people think that Rodgers deserves a shot. He has not earned a thig in this league. I really wish Brett would stay because just look at how Denver and Miami are doing now.

I do hope I am wrong but people have been spoiled for so long that some of the objectivity is clouded.

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Originally posted by mayhem39:

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by mayhem39:


I put very little blame on Favre in this whole mess. I know I'm in the minority on here with that opinion but that's what I see.

I'm not going to shout you down, unlike others on this board. I just want to know why you feel that way.

First off, I think Favre was pressured into the retirement. I could be wrong on that, but it seems that everything that has happened since he let out that he wanted to come back, TT and MM went right into PR mode. I don't think they wanted him there and that has certainly been proven over the last few days. To me, Favre gives the team the best chance to win and for some reason TT and MM do not want him there. I have not figured out why they don't want him there, but it has certainly been obvious they want to go another route. Why? It's not like Favre has diminished skills. He played great last year. My guess is that Favre is not the only one in Packer land with an ego. I suspect there are some people in the organization that want some of the limelight Brett has received. I don't know, just a theory. There is definitely more to it then Favre waffling in the off season, we are moving forward, Rodgers is our starting QB, and the train has left the station crap that we have been hearing in the media. I'm not buying that stuff for a minute.

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From a purely football perspective, the organizational shift against Favre began that November night in Dallas, gained steam in the arctic cold of Soldier Field and became a blaze during Favre's pathetic second-half showing against the New York Giants with a Super Bowl there for the taking.

Just about everyone who counted in the football department reached the conclusion that Favre could never win another championship. His dismal playoff record in the past decade couldn't be overlooked. And the Packers concluded that it would be the mother of all mistakes if Aaron Rodgers got away without being properly evaluated as a starter.

Favre had one chance, and one chance only, to salvage his career in Green Bay. He had to commit wholeheartedly for another season by early March.

One could argue that the Packers erred by asking Favre for an answer that early. But having been hung out to dry by Favre too often in the past, they were in no mood for drama. Their days of mollycoddling were over.

The Packers would have taken back Favre as the starter, albeit reluctantly, if he had acted like any other player and not some diva. That is, show up for work in late March, practice until mid-June and be in exceptional condition by July 28.

That's never too much to expect.

Once Favre tearfully retired, the die was cast. The singular comment made by Favre on March 6 that remains etched indelibly was his admission that he really didn't want the ball in the clutch anymore.

After that, the Packers cut the cord, and rightly so. Favre had come across to most as an emotionally spent 38-year-old with nothing left athletically that he cared to give.

Shortly after the draft, Mike McCarthy basically told his players that he was in charge of this team, not Favre, and that it was critical to rally around Rodgers. Then Rodgers began inviting players to his home. To McCarthy, the off-season is absolutely crucial, and with his entire being he anointed Rodgers.

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Its that soft west coast thing I speak about. A mixture of metrosexual and prickish surfer dude that is hard to buy into. I think that was part of the undoing of Harrington.

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Originally posted by Packermaniac:
I don't get why people think that Rodgers deserves a shot. He has not earned a thig in this league. I really wish Brett would stay because just look at how Denver and Miami are doing now.

I do hope I am wrong but people have been spoiled for so long that some of the objectivity is clouded.

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Originally posted by Packermaniac:
I don't get why people think that Rodgers deserves a shot. He has not earned a thig in this league. I really wish Brett would stay because just look at how Denver and Miami are doing now.

I do hope I am wrong but people have been spoiled for so long that some of the objectivity is clouded.

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Originally posted by mayhem39:

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by mayhem39:


I put very little blame on Favre in this whole mess. I know I'm in the minority on here with that opinion but that's what I see.

I'm not going to shout you down, unlike others on this board. I just want to know why you feel that way.

First off, I think Favre was pressured into the retirement. I could be wrong on that, but it seems that everything that has happened since he let out that he wanted to come back, TT and MM went right into PR mode. I don't think they wanted him there and that has certainly been proven over the last few days. To me, Favre gives the team the best chance to win and for some reason TT and MM do not want him there. I have not figured out why they don't want him there, but it has certainly been obvious they want to go another route. Why? It's not like Favre has diminished skills. He played great last year. My guess is that Favre is not the only one in Packer land with an ego. I suspect there are some people in the organization that want some of the limelight Brett has received. I don't know, just a theory. There is definitely more to it then Favre waffling in the off season, we are moving forward, Rodgers is our starting QB, and the train has left the station crap that we have been hearing in the media. I'm not buying that stuff for a minute.