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What I find interesting is there are people who think both Grant and Jackson will be studs this year, and that Wynn might also be pretty good. When really, if Grant is a stud, Jackson will essentially be Tony Fisher and Wynn will barely get on the field.


This is football. Guys get hurt.


Are you actually suggesting that we shouldn't immediately trade whatever linebacker, Poppinga or Chillar, doesn't win the starting job, as well as whoever loses out in the bid to start at safety? That's kooky talk.

Anyway, I agree with you - my point is that if either Jackson or Wynn makes a major impact this season, it will probably be because Grant gets injured early -- and thus ends up not being the stud he was down the stretch. Merely having one guy be a star this season would be great.

Plus, remember:

If Grant gets hurt, it's because he was a money-grubber who skipped OTAs and was more susceptible to injury.

If Jackson gets hurt, it's because he showed he was injury prone in college and should never have been drafted.

And if Wynn gets hurt, it's because he's a lazy POS.


I'd put my money on COLLEDGE!!! Mad Mad Mad whiffing on a block and getting the RB injured.
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What I find interesting is there are people who think both Grant and Jackson will be studs this year, and that Wynn might also be pretty good. When really, if Grant is a stud, Jackson will essentially be Tony Fisher and Wynn will barely get on the field.


This is football. Guys get hurt.


Are you actually suggesting that we shouldn't immediately trade whatever linebacker, Poppinga or Chillar, doesn't win the starting job, as well as whoever loses out in the bid to start at safety? That's kooky talk.

Anyway, I agree with you - my point is that if either Jackson or Wynn makes a major impact this season, it will probably be because Grant gets injured early -- and thus ends up not being the stud he was down the stretch. Merely having one guy be a star this season would be great.

Plus, remember:

If Grant gets hurt, it's because he was a money-grubber who skipped OTAs and was more susceptible to injury.

If Jackson gets hurt, it's because he showed he was injury prone in college and should never have been drafted.

And if Wynn gets hurt, it's because he's a lazy POS.


I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY I DISAGREE WITH YOU.
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If Jackson gets hurt, it's because he showed he was injury prone in college and should never have been drafted.

No, it will be because he was carrying a loaf of bread.
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I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY I DISAGREE WITH YOU.


Why are you sucking up to Max, he's not even a Mod!! I assume you agree with me? Razzer
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I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

Why are you sucking up to Max, he's not even a Mod!! I assume you agree with me? Razzer

I think we all agree that there's no reason to watch Tottenham Hotspurs. Wink
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I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

Why are you sucking up to Max, he's not even a Mod!! I assume you agree with me? Razzer

I think we all agree that there's no reason to watch Tottenham Hotspurs. Wink


I don't even know what that is? Is that a crappy futbol referance?
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I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

Why are you sucking up to Max, he's not even a Mod!! I assume you agree with me? Razzer

I think we all agree that there's no reason to watch Tottenham Hotspurs. Wink


There is no one I despise more than you. How dare you? I now pronounce you a Minnesota Vikings fan. Champ Jr.

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Originally posted by Goalline:
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

Why are you sucking up to Max, he's not even a Mod!! I assume you agree with me? Razzer

I think we all agree that there's no reason to watch Tottenham Hotspurs. Wink


I don't even know what that is? Is that a crappy futbol referance?


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So it is Soccer, you could have just said that! Do people still play soccer? Thought it was extinct...guess not. Thumbs Up
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So it is Soccer, you could have just said that! Do people still play soccer? Thought it was extinct...guess not. Thumbs Up


That's because "S"occer comes after "R"eeeding in the alphabetical curriculum featured in duh SEC.
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So it is Soccer, you could have just said that! Do people still play soccer? Thought it was extinct...guess not. Thumbs Up


That's because "S"occer comes after "R"eeeding in the alphabetical curriculum featured in duh SEC.


S doesn't come before R? When did they change that? I guess you learn something every day!
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OMG...did anyone besides a couple people read the scouting report when Wynn was drafted? The guy WAS LAZY! Yes, he did get injured and I believe Mike said he needs to toughen up.

Everybody knows Grave thinks everyone from the lesSEC are talented, smart studs when in fact most of them are lucky enough to have a GED and Dexter Manley's edumacation.
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http://timesfour.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/938109321/m/849...941070122#4941070122

Negatives: Has had several run-ins with the past and present coaching staffs, and is not considered a team-oriented athlete … Not a self-starter and does not like hard coaching or a structured environment … Works hard in the weight room, but for a player of his size and power, you would expect him to play with more aggressiveness and attack defenders … Has the leg drive to break tackles, but his feet go dead upon contact … Is too inconsistent trying to break arm tackles and this causes him to struggle in attempts to run through wrap-ups … For some reason, he prefers to be a bounder or finesse back rather than a straight-ahead power runner … Uses his body too much to absorb the ball in rather than reach and pluck away from his frame … His short arms cause him to struggle when trying to get to the pass at its high point, and he looks unnatural with his hands … Needs to look the ball in sooner on deep routes, but is better served on swing routes … Doesn't seem to have a taste for blocking (with his weight room strength, he should be blowing up blitzers on a regular basis) … Has the vision to recognize the bull rush, but makes only passive attempts to get in the way rather than try to face up … Creative working in space, but it is almost to a fault, as he seems to prefer cutting and juking when he should be using his size and strength to power through tackles rather than avoiding them

He's one tough SOB.
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I've only heard a couple of Wynn interviews, but I was very impressed with his personality/attitude. Maybe I missed the ones where he sounded dumb.
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Grant is good; if he isn't busting at the seams to play with the Packers, we could trade him for a lot.
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Lot, and his wife.
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OMG...did anyone besides a couple people read the scouting report when Wynn was drafted? The guy WAS LAZY! Yes, he did get injured and I believe Mike said he needs to toughen up.

Everybody knows Grave thinks everyone from the lesSEC are talented, smart studs when in fact most of them are lucky enough to have a GED and Dexter Manley's edumacation.


Because, ya know, all players are exactly the same in the pros as they were in college. That's a fact...

I read the scouting report and I remember him when he was at Floriduh. He was lazy and an underachiever. Does that mean he's still that way? The evidence doesn't point that way. McCarthy and Bennett singled him out and said he WORKED HARD this offseason. I admit, I'm definitely no genius, but I thought people who were lazy DIDN'T work hard. Am I wrong on that point?

As to him being tough, I don't really know if he is or isn't. That's yet to be determined. He certainly ran hard when he was healthy. Right now I wouldn't he IS tough but I think he's far from soft.

As I said, I'm no champion of the guy. I'm usually an optimist and I'm not really that optimistic he'll be anything special. Yep, that's clearly my SEC bias showing itself right there....you got me man. Roll Eyes

I don't think guys from the SEC are smart...show me a quote where I have ever said that...ever...ever. You can't find because I don't think that and you just made that up so.... hmm1

I do think there are players in the SEC are talented...I think there are players in the Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, and every other frickin conference are talented. Man, that's some bias... Roll Eyes Way to go chief.
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