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QB, CB, G.

I am not sold on Rodgers primarily due to health. There isn't a lot of data on him with respect to health, but what little there is does not give me supreme confidence.
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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Bottom line is, if you can't keep your franchise player not to mention your best player happy and healthy mentally to play, as the General Manager of the team you have failed.

I'm saying that by no means do I believe that Brett Favre would have retired if Thompson would have done his job. Having 33 million (or 21 million) in cap space at the time is inexcusable for a Super Bowl Calibur team. They should be doing everything in their power to add to this team and they refuse to do so. The draft can only do so much and Thompson is bound to have a few "bust" drafts coming up. It's the law of averages. Last seasons draft was not very good in retrospect.

This team could have been 11-5 or 12-4 next year. You are probably looking at 9-7 at best next season with the schedule we face.

There will be at least 50 threads next season with people asking why Thompson didnt do everything possible to keep Favre. To put your head in the sand now and pretend it wont happen is just naive. The packers were not 13-3 good last season. They could just as easily go 5-11 next season as 13-3.

With Favre in the fold, he pretty much adds 2-3 wins himself just out of pure energy and his play making abilities. Plus, people just like playing for him. They bust their butts for him. I will like AR, I hope he does well, but I think if you have a better player in the fold, you do everything you can to make sure he stays in the fold. Not just make excuses about not being able to prevent him leaving. That is horsecrap.


So, if I am reading your post correctly, you are saying Thompson did not do his job because Favre retired, and you are assuming that Favre left because TT did not spend enough of the available cap room?

I haven't been around this board too long, but is this a bait thread? hmmm

The GM's job is to put the best team possible on the field - not to spend money just because you have the cap room. And the GM's job certainly does not include making sure he keeps an aging HOF QB "in the fold" by mortgaging the future.
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Originally posted by Limburger:

I haven't been around this board too long, but is this a bait thread?


Nah more of the lines of a look at me post in this thread then a bait thread. For me, I just don't understand how he drew up the logic in his comments.

Favre has never been one to sugar coat his comments. So why on earth would he suddenly start now? Even at times on some stuff that was probable best left unsaid. Then he comes outs and clears the air on some of the rumors that have be started by the press in his retirement presser and Digger tells us were are suppose to believe this long drawn out conspiracy that Thompson forces Favre into retirement.

Sounds to me that he is having issues accepting that Favre is really going to retire and want to place blame on someone or anyone.
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I haven't been around this board too long, but is this a bait thread? hmmm

It's just someone that thinks he knows something about baseball talking about a sport he clearly knows nothing about. Nothing new to see here. Move along, move along. Smiler
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Bottom line is,...


Bottom line is that with that Sharper among the top 40 Packers of all-time you willingly gave up the right to be considered seriously on any matter connected to football.

Bottom line is that any 38 year old who is not mentally ready to hang in there for another season of getting knocked around like a 16 year old shown known when to call it quits and more so has every right to call it quits.

Your suggestion that it is Thompson's job to make sure his player is "mentally healthy" to play another season at the highest level of the game is just plain stupid. That is like suggesting that every therapist working in any mental health field is responsible for the actions and behaviors of their client.

Now, I know that I have uttered a dumb comment or two on this board (there might be a couple of posters who would suggest all my comments are dumb Big Grin)but that line about Thompson been responsible for Favre's mental well-being easily moves into my top ten all-time dumb comments, right up there just above the one where Sharper is one of the 40 all-time great Packers (I believe there was a thread on that, and I am not sure he made anyone's list of top 50.)
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Just so we're clear ahead of time, any thoughts of having the right to post the following:

1. Why can't we express our opinion without getting roasted? and
2. I'm a victim - stop picking on me!

Are hereby forfeited with the post you made below. Wanna call the entire board out as lemmings and sheep (and thereby intimate everyone who disagrees with your self-proclaimed intellectualism is an idiot)? That's fine, but you're sleeping in the bed you made, and no whining will be tolerated after the fact.

quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa
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I'm still trying to figure out what is supposed to be working out in the fall. All I know is football season will start and I will be cheering on the Packers the same as I always have been since the 60's.
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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa


You will pull a CoP during the season and disappear.
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quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa


Do lemmings really say baaaaaaaaa?
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Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa


Do lemmings really say baaaaaaaaa?


What are you, some kind of sheep?
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Originally posted by Goalline:
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Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa


Do lemmings really say baaaaaaaaa?


What are you, some kind of sheep?


Maybe a better question would be what kind of sheep are you?
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quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Goalline:
quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa


Do lemmings really say baaaaaaaaa?


What are you, some kind of sheep?


Maybe a better question would be what kind of sheep are you?


The crying on the inside kind, I guess.
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quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Goalline:
quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa


Do lemmings really say baaaaaaaaa?


What are you, some kind of sheep?


Maybe a better question would be what kind of sheep are you?


The type that follows other sheep down those, oh so wonderful, cliffs.
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Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Goalline:
quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Just remember to be good lemmings when things dont work out this fall... ok?


Baaaaaaaa


Do lemmings really say baaaaaaaaa?


What are you, some kind of sheep?


Maybe a better question would be what kind of sheep are you?


The crying on the inside kind, I guess.


Hey, I just retired at the age of 38. You would be crying too.
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I am a sheepdog the rest of ewe are sheep and wolves....besides baseaball has been veddy veddy good to me.
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Hey, I just retired at the age of 38. You would be crying too.


38 in Africa years. If we knew your actual age you probably would be about retirement age! 29
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But still eligimible for duh SEC, of course.
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Originally posted by Diggr14:
resignation. He should have made sure we got Brett back this season. All you do is go to him and say.. we want you back, and what would it do to get you to come back....



Thompson really should resign.


huh. Confused

I suppose there are things Thompson could have done differently to help induce Favr to stay another year. But the real question is: should he have? I don't think so. Favre said he is ready to hang them up. I have to take him at his word. Coercing him to stay another year would not have been the right thing to do whether it worked(VERY, incredibly, miniscule chance, but I suppose there's always a chance, like me winning the Powerball)or not.
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I really dont mean to T anyone off.. if i did.. im sorry.


But I happen to disagree with most of you that posted in this thread. It's cool Smiler

We will see who is right this fall. For the sake of the Packers I hope I'm WRONG!
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and Goalline, I wont disappear. I can take it when i'm wrong.
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What more did anyone need to here ... Brett said he thought he still could play physically, but didn't have it in himself mentally to continue on. There's really no controversy about it .. he hung em' up. It's all on him.

If you have to push the guy into playing by buying up players or something it's just not worth it. There would be no guarentee that the Packers would win the Super Bowl even if a guy like Moss would have been added to the mix.

I guess if #4 couldn't get excited enough about coming back to a young team that came very close to being in the Super Bowl then it was time for him to hang up the cleats .... his did .. end of story.
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Originally posted by Goalline:
Hey, I just retired at the age of 38. You would be crying too.


38 in Africa years. If we knew your actual age you probably would be about retirement age! 29


ROFL2 Very good point.
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