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 Location: New Orleans, LA
Registered: 02-21-2000
Posts: 6423
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For the first time in a very long time it's actually tough to claim GB "needs" a whole lot. As we're aware they're coming off a 13-3 yr, a home loss in the NFC title game, and have been the youngest team in the league for the last 2 yrs (w/ Favre and maybe Davis gone that may not change). As impressive as anything is we're talking about a team who's losing one of the best QB's in the game coming off a 95 rating (or whatever) season and they're OK at that spot too (for a starter).
Sure, after closing the Franks chapter GB could use another TE. I'd be surprised if they didn't find one in the draft or via trade. Harris was roasted by Burress and Woodson's 30+. They're still pretty solid there aren't they? Heck, depending on what happens with Blackmon's health I don't think Tramon Williams and J. Bush are terrible guys to develop for youngsters. No depth at LB? I'd agree with that and am sure that'll be addressed. OK, Poppinga isn't the player you'd like in coverage but he's not a bad player. Besides, it's not like GB doesn't have 2 LB's who can excel in nickel/dime. The OT's are old and the interior OL is substandard. For OT's Tausch/Clifton aren't that old and they're both still good players. Spitz will be fine IMO and Wells is a fine player - Colledge regressed though. The question is does GB believe Colledge can still be a player, or Coston, Moll, etc. With Williams' departure they need DL help. I'd agree another DL wouldn't hurt but the cupboard's hardly bare. Their S's suck. At times, yes. Collins IMO is under the gun more as Bigby/Rouse make big plays. Either way it's a spot that needs upgrading I suspect. So, GB's in a position to take whomever they want at whatever position they desire. They don't necessarily "have" to address any position in the draft or via FA save maybe backup TE and QB. What I wonder is what's the next move? Do they sit tight/drop and continue to draft 10+ guys/yr? Does Thompson have a bolder move in mind a la Wolf w/ the Favre trade/KJackson trade? I try not to project too much Wolf on TT - they're not the same I realize. Even still, while it was a different time Wolf used UFA for White, Dotson, Sean Jones, E. Robinson, etc. Thompson got Pickett/Woodson. RW sent a 2nd rd pick for 1+ year's reluctant rental of K. Jackson. Would GB have won it all w/o Jackson's 10 TD's that year? I'm not convinced anyone out there will help GB via UFA regardless of how much space they have. I just wonder if there's not a more aggressive move awaiting Thompson/Green Bay this off-season...maybe even already in the planning? |
 Location: st paul
Registered: 08-11-2007
Posts: 1231
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CB: Blackmon and Tramone Williams are good. They got potential. Tramone has showed he can deliver. Blackmon needs to prove he can stay healthy. Bush needs to show he can take the next step. Which he has not done yet. LB: They need someone who can cover TEs. Rouse? S: Collins has regressed since Sanders took over for Bates as DC. That first year, the Dbacks were a mess, until Winston Moss took over as "assistant head coach, defense." To me, that's patchwork. Just make Moss the DC. AJ Hawk would look much better with a solid DC, imo. OL: Keep Tauscher. Trade Clifton before his joints break down. Move Colledge over to T where he belongs. Or try Barbre there. Get some real guards in the draft. Find a C to challenge Wells too. TT will, and should, take "best player available." But this is just what I'm saying. He finds diamonds in the rough who havent been drafted. Also, if you got a glut of good players at a position, you can trade one for a position you need to solidify. Like Guard. Guard is the most glaring weakness on this team. |
 Location: East Coast
Registered: 02-08-2005
Posts: 717
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If there is a "bold" move out there, I'd like to see them get Lito Sheppard. That would be bold. That would have to send something of substance. But I'd like to have a CB for the future right now. They would still need to draft a few anyway. If my memory is correct, Woodson has a big bonus next off-season, that made his deal essentially 3 years. So CB is a big need for the future if you ask me. |
 Location: Internet tough guy training camp
Registered: 09-20-2005
Posts: 3152
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I think the 3 biggest needs right now are OL, CB, and TE.
I'd pick BPA of those 3 positions and draft for depth later on. We've absolutely got to fix this problem at OG first and foremost. Rodgers is going to need every weapon he can get so I'd consider a TE who can run a fairly strong need. You can never have enough good corners. I saw enough of Harris last year to know we've got to start building up some talent there. Honestly, if I were in TT's shoes I'd pick a QB fairly early too. The difference between Rodgers as the starter and some back-up who doesn't know the system is a potential disaster. At least we'd have a rookie on the roster to groom for playing time rather than a cheap veteran gun for hire. |
 Location: East Wing of Boris' Mansion
Registered: 12-17-2000
Posts: 7525
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It was said that Favre made average WR's look better then they were in his career. I think we're going to see the same for his OL. Namely because Favre had one of the, if not the fastest release of the ball as a QB (that is one skill of his that never diminished). His lightening quick release to get the ball out and in a hurry to his WR's made the OL's job alot easier. You just simply didnt need to protect him as long because that ball came out so fast. Now I'm not saying Rodgers is slow at his release (he was far worse in 2005 at it) but he, like most other NFL QB's in the league, isn't as fast as Favre and because of that our OL could look worse at times or we may see Rodgers take off more because the OL needs to protect longer. In that respect, I agree that TT needs to do what he can to ensure he has a good OL protecting Aaron. Either that, or we will see Aaron taking off to run alot. |
 Registered: 01-11-2002
Posts: 10905
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Packerboi, I was about to say the same thing about the line. Not only are our tackles older players and the interior guys with some question marks, but Favre probably often made the line look better than it was.
Our starting corners are older players and the depth behind them is questionable. Blackmon has not been able to stay healthy, obviously. We have basically one tight end. We have a lot of defensive linemen, but those guys get hurt a lot. Can't have too much depth there. Clearly we want to upgrade the linebacking corps, since we were interested in Bailey, Chillar et al. The abuse this defense took from tight ends was significant. Plus there's little depth. If Barnett got hurt I bet our defense couldn't get off the field. Nobody has talked about wide receiver, but Driver is an older player who takes a lot of punishment, Jennings has been dinged up a little his first two years, Jones is still somewhat unproven (I like him, but he disappeared a lot as a rookie, which is reasonable), Martin is just a guy. And, players at this position get banged up, probably especially so with a virtual rookie at quarterback. We don't have a backup quarterback worth mentioning. No offense to Nall, but he's just a guy, and one who would not win any games as a starter. And of course everyone seems to want or expect us to use a high pick on a running back, too. Bottom line, I think TT will and should look at the entire roster with a critical eye. Get too comfortable with the roster and we'd very quickly be at the bottom of the division. |
 Location: "beat me like a rented mule" - Henry
Registered: 02-02-2000
Posts: 20180
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A quick release is Aaron Rodgers' greatest strength. The man needs time reading live NFL defenses. |
 Location: Broomfield, Colorado
Registered: 02-03-2000
Posts: 7767
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CB, LB, TE, OL, QB, RB, SF and long snapper. Almost sounds like a normal draft day shopping list.
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 Location: Captain Underpants
Registered: 03-17-2004
Posts: 4297
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If Julius Peppers is available either through trade this year or free agency next year that would be enormous for any team, not just the Packers. I can't see the Panthers letting him hit the open market but he would be one of the best available players in a long, long time if that happens. Young, enormously talented and has played in big games. That is the type of player that deserves Reggie White money.
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Location: "beat me like a rented mule" - Henry
Registered: 02-02-2000
Posts: 20180
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Give me his 2.5 sacks any day.  |
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Location: Captain Underpants
Registered: 03-17-2004
Posts: 4297
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Perfect timing after a down year. Ruvell Martin and a 4th rounder. Done deal!  |
 Location: I welcome death.
Registered: 01-24-2006
Posts: 2563
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Pass Rush.
Another DE that will force is the biggest need. KGB is adequate for another year but he is trending the wrong way the last two years. AK74 is one of my favorite Packers but I worry when the wear will start to show. Premium pass rushers are always needed. TT will be willing to gamble with a first day pick. |
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Location: Eau Claire, WI, USA
Registered: 01-31-2001
Posts: 321
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It almost looks like we might get Brandon Chillar so I would assume we have competition for the SSLB spot. Plus, if Abdul Hodge comes back full strength from his knee tendinitis operations, we have great depth at LB. I assume we get a veteran backup QB. Kris Wilson, TE/FB is also a possibility, but that may be too much free agent activity for TT in one year.
Have been hearing more and more that Ahman Green should get us an extra pick at the end of the 4th round. I would have thought end of the 5th round, but I will assume a 4th round pick. That gives the Packers 6 picks in the first 4 rounds with 3 in the first 2 rounds. I could see the Packers draft going something like this: 1st round: Antonio Rodgers-Cromartie, CB 2nd round: Martellus Bennett, TE 2nd round: Duane Brown, OT 3rd round: Kendall Langford, DE 4th round: Josh Barrett, S 4th round: Owen Schmitt, FB 5th round: Dennis Dixon, QB 7th round: Best OG or C available That draft would give us good depth at CB, OT and S. Schmitt could probably start right away. Bennett could be the 2nd TE right away, good size and speed. Dixon is better than 5th round material, but his knee would keep him out the first year, but that's okay. Don't need Rodgers feeling we took a QB to compete with him his first year. I would be happy with that draft. |
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Location: New Orleans, LA
Registered: 02-21-2000
Posts: 6423
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Ya don't think he should and will rest on his laurels and not look to upgrade any spots whatsoever b/c they're "pretty good" everywhere (save backup TE and QB as noted)?  Seriously, agreed w/ most here. Sure, GB would still be a Driver and/or Lee injury away from disaster offensively. That hasn't changed since last year. It's pretty obvious they're old at CB and OT and while it's hardly emergent IMO one would be surprised if those spots weren't addressed. Agreed also Favre's release and short area elusiveness will be missed; I'm aware though that the addition of Rodgers' ability to run compensates at least to some extent. I find it an interesting time in that there are few glaring spots requiring obvious attention and that's novel compared to recent years. It'll be interesting to see what - if anything - happens in the next couple of months. |
 Location: Baby Mangino for President 2012
Registered: 03-20-2005
Posts: 6748
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Might be a good pick, but I'd prefer Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. |
 Location: 1/2 mile from Mean Girls gone Wild
Registered: 02-02-2000
Posts: 2424
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I think the Packers need to consider re-signing Bubba Franks, I just watched the Seattle playoff game and Bubba was so consistent with blocking. With Rodgers getting the nod, having a veteran in that position knowing the offense would not hurt. NO he wasnt worth the 5 million the packers were going to have to pay him and nobody else is going to pay him that either. But offer him 1 to 1.5 million and he would probably re-sign. The Packers are probably going to look for a blocking TE in the draft and I doubt anybody does it any better than Franks. Lee will be the pass catching TE and Bubban can block.
The TEs that are mentioned the Packers are interested in FA are not pass catching and again their blocking can't be as good as Bubbas. |
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Location: New Orleans, LA
Registered: 02-21-2000
Posts: 6423
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I'm pretty sure Dominique R-C will be gone by #30...not sure about the other.  |
 Registered: 08-05-2005
Posts: 4076
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An excellent point, and as we all know Favre was also very evasive inside the pocket. Just going by what I've seen in preseason and in the Dallas game, one of Rodgers strength's at this stage of his career appears to be his ability to scramble and make the throw on the run. |
 Location: #4 for MVP. Magical Season again.
Registered: 04-11-2002
Posts: 4200
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resignation. He should have made sure we got Brett back this season. All you do is go to him and say.. we want you back, and what would it do to get you to come back....
Thompson really should resign. |
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Location: "beat me like a rented mule" - Henry
Registered: 02-02-2000
Posts: 20180
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They should fire him. www.firetedthompson.com |
 Location: ...in da woods some where
Registered: 11-14-2001
Posts: 6396
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Oh Look Mom,Look At The Clown Post On X4's |
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Location: Eau Claire, WI, USA
Registered: 01-31-2001
Posts: 321
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My bad. Tired. Obviously had his cousin(?) Antonio Cromartie on my mind also. |
