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Location: Fair and Balanced Posting
Registered: 01-22-2002
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TT has just doubled our chances of having a reasonably capable replacement for that guy who just retired.
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Location: NW Chicago Burbs
Registered: 02-07-2000
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When I look at Brohm, I see Roethlisberger. That's not a bad thing.
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Registered: 04-03-2004
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Taking Brohm was necessary. TT is all about BPA and getting value at each pick in the draft. Brohm was considered a first rounder by many. It's admittedly hard to "love" a pick that I hope will be stuck on the bench but it makes a ton of sense to draft the guy.
TT and MM are both going out of their way to tell the media that Rodgers is the guy and Brohm isn't a threat to his job. Not yet anyway. Give Brohm a year or two in the system and their tune might change. One thing is for sure: TT has done everything possible to prepare the position for the post-Favre era. I'm glad to see we aren't pissing around with stop-gap FA's or veterans scrubs. Well done TT! Hey, we can honestly say that GB once again has the best QB's in the NFCN, right? WTF were the Vikings thinking taking a safety and passing on Brohm and Henne? Dumbasses. |
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Registered: 04-03-2004
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I have no idea how you come to that conclusion. I don't see any comparison other than they are both white males who play football. |
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Registered: 01-09-2001
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I agree .. I feel much more comfortable about the qb situation, and I bet TT and MM do as well. It's no sure bet that Rodgers is the real deal .. hopefully he will be, but if he continues to have some durability issues, the Packers will have a quality young qb behind him to work into the mix. I like the situation. |
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Registered: 08-11-2007
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Brohm may not realize how lucky he is. He's in a situation where he's not forced to be The Guy right away. He can sit back and get coached by the premiere QB guru in the league right now, in MM. If/when he does get a shot to play, he's gonna have guys open on every play. And that COULD happen, given Rodgers' apparent injury buggaboo.
Worst case scenario for Brohm, he gets coached up to MM's specifications, then traded into a situation where he will be The Guy. It's a win-win situation for everyone. If they're comparing him to Drew Brees, only taller and more muscular, then I like the pick alot. |
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Registered: 12-01-2004
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Good pik, this gives all the toolfans something to scream when the Pack is losing this year. Brooooohm! Brooooooohm!
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Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
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I think the Drew Brees comparison is pretty accurate based on what I've seen of both players (in college). The difference is that Brohm is a bigger guy and that's not a bad thing at that position.
I really liked this pick and of all of the QB prospects out there I think Brohm is the most NFL ready right now. That can't hurt a team like GB where they need a good backup. |
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Location: I welcome death.
Registered: 01-24-2006
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Do we know for sure Ted is done drafting QB's this year?
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Location: My head hurts...
Registered: 09-22-2000
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I don't get this at all. I think Flacco is more like Roethlisberger. Big, not too mobile, small school, etc. I really do see the Brees comparison. Supposedly weaker arm but deadly accurate. Might be just right for the WCO. |
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Location: My head hurts...
Registered: 09-22-2000
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Funny you said this. I was wondering if BPA goes through the entire draft? What if a QB is the BPA today? Do they pick him? |
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Registered: 01-11-2002
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I'll freely admit that I hated the pick (but at least we didn't take him in the first). TT knows better than I do, and the kid sounded good in his post-draft interview, so I'm fine with it. A few things, though:
- Questions like why didn't the Vikings take him etc. - if a guy falls to the bottom of the 2nd round, clearly teams have questions as to whether he'll be a solid pro. Including us. We didn't KNOW he'd be there at 56. We passed on him at 30, we passed on him at 36, which means we were plenty prepared not to draft him. (I know we asked about trading up, but we didn't, so again, we were certainly aware he might be drafted before we picked.) There are questions about him, and obviously we have some too. - Don't be so sure we won't have a stop-gap or veteran scrub on our roster this year. Brohm might need a year or two to pick up the offense and it's not certain he'll be our No. 2 this year. Possible, but I still won't be surprised if we have a veteran there. - As for whether we have the best QBs in the NFC North, who knows. We've got the highest draft picks, but neither one has started an NFL game. At the NFL level, who knows. A day later, I like the pick most for BK's reason above: it doubles our chances of finding a young franchise QB to replace Favre, and that's a good thing. It doesn't mean that one of the guys will absolutely be our franchise guy for the next decade, though. |
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Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
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Brohm has a lot of the intangibles that you like to see out of the QB position- he's smart, he's a competitor, and he's got good leadership qualities. More importantly he makes good decisions and that's something you need out of that position.
When you see what he did in college he really was impressive and not in a David Klingler or Alex Smith video game type offense. He reminds me a little of Peyton Manning in that he made a lot of calls and audibles on his own and he seems to see the field well and know where his guys are supposed to be. You simply can't teach those kind of instincts. Right now I am very excited about the Packers and the QB position. Rodgers is a nice young player ready for his shot and there is nothing to lead me to believe that Brohm can't succeed on the next level either as a starter or at the worst a competent backup. |
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Location: Fair and Balanced Posting
Registered: 01-22-2002
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I'm saving your reply Max for the next time somebody claims I don't know football. Coming from you it's high praise. You guys sometimes just think of me as the prettiest poster around here, but I have a brain too!
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Registered: 02-02-2000
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Big Ben immobile? No way. |
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Registered: 02-02-2000
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With their history of picking QBs, I'd say that is a positive in Brohm's favor. |
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Location: I welcome death.
Registered: 01-24-2006
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At what point is jOSH jOHNSON or the other kid from San Diego St the BPA? 4th or 5th rd? |
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Registered: 01-11-2002
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We've got a limited number of picks and a lot of positions where we need to add players. Using another pick on a QB would be pretty surprising.
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Registered: 02-02-2000
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If he is BPA on TT's board, I will be pumped up about the pick. A team cannot have too many good QBs. What we have experienced over the last decade and a half is far from the norm. QB's get hurt in this league and it will be nice to have options. |
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Registered: 05-08-2002
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C'mon Max. The Vikings have put the future of their franchise in Tavaris jackson's hands - enough said. What round was Tom Brady picked in again? Not saying Brohm will be good but to judge based on mass opinion is idiotic. |
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Registered: 01-11-2002
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I think that's true of other positions, too. I realize fans (not you specifically) get more pumped about QBs and RBs and the like, but a team cannot have too many good offensive linemen or defensive linemen (as a for instance) either. |
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Registered: 01-11-2002
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I'm not saying they're right. I just don't understand ripping a team for not taking a guy that NOBODY took until the bottom of the 2nd round. Of course he could be the best player in the draft, like Brady was, but clearly even the Patriots would have taken him way earlier than they did if they had any inkling how good he'd be. The Vikings need a quarterback, obviously, but maybe they just didn't think Brohm would be any good. I realize they're a bunch of idiots, but it doesn't mean they'll be wrong. |
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Registered: 02-02-2000
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Agreed! That is why BPA is the way to good. You may not fill holes, but you build depth with good players, some of whom become starters down the road. |
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Location: Upstate Wisconsin
Registered: 12-16-2004
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Brian Brohm was 11 years old when he traveled to Green Bay, Wis., to watch his brother, Jeff, play quarterback against the Packers. The youngest of the Brohm clan came away from that game with a cheesehead. He says he wore it on the ride home and still has it. Now he can dust it off and put it to good use. Though he had to wait a little longer than he wanted, the former University of Louisville quarterback was taken by the Packers last night in the second round of the NFL draft, the 56th pick. "I was getting a little antsy, but I am happy with it now," Brohm said. "I am very happy as a Green Bay Packer. It's a storied football program, it's a great organization and it's going to be awesome to play 4 them." Brohm, who watched the draft from the Howard Schnellenberger Football Complex at U of L along with about 100 relatives and friends, stayed patient as the draft moved into the latter part of the second round. After a few calls during the first five hours of the draft, his phone rang at 8:22 p.m. It was Packers head coach Mike McCarthy. "He asked me if I was ready to come in and start working hard, and I am," Brohm said. "I knew there was a run of teams right there that were possibilities. I'm just excited and happy that it turned out like this." With ESPN cameras in the room, Brohm had to wait a couple of minutes 4 the pick to be announced. Then the room erupted. Among those in attendance were U of L President Dr. James Ramsey, athletic director Tom Jurich and Brohm's coach at Trinity High School, Bob Beatty. "If we had to wait, I am glad he went to the Packers," said Brohm's father, Oscar, himself a former U of L quarterback. "Green Bay is a great place, and they have a great tradition." Brohm, who at one point last season was projected as the No. 1 pick, said he had "minimal" contact with the Packers before the draft. Green Bay legend Brett Favre retired after last season, and fourth-year quarterback Aaron Rodgers -- a former first-round choice -- is projected as the starter. Brohm said he'll head to Green Bay this week 4 a minicamp that begins Thursday. "It's kind of a sigh of relief now," he said. "I finally know where I am going, what team I will be on, and I can start working hard 4 that team. I just want to get up there and get to work and see what happens." Brohm will join a West Coast offense that he said "I think I will be a good fit in." He'll be reunited with former U of L offensive lineman Jason Spitz, a third-year player 4 the Packers. Green Bay is a cold-weather team, but Brohm has thrived in those condi |