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Nick Barnett Might Be Limited At Start Of Camp
Posted by Aaron Wilson on July 3, 2009 6:35 PM
Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick Barnett proclaimed that he's 90 percent recovered from surgery to repair a torn right anterior cruciate ligament.

However, there's a slight catch.

During a Sirius NFL Radio interview, Barnett told Ross Tucker that he expects to be limited at the beginning of training camp.

For Barnett, who tore the ligament in a November loss to the Minnesota Vikings, it's a case of fairly normal progress from a serious injury.

Barnett is a key component of the Packers' defense, especially as they transition to a new 3-4 scheme under new defensive coordinator Dom Capers' direction.

The athletic 6'2," 236-pounder has recorded 658, 11 1/2 sacks and nine interceptions.

In an unrelated Brett Favre reference, Barnett acknowledged that Favre's messy divorce from the Packers was a "huge distraction."

Per Tucker, Barnett said he's glad that a detrimental, dramatic episode is in the past.


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I say "finally" not specific to Barnett but that a leader from the team admits what so many Packer fans suspected all along...that the TOG drama was a major distraction to the team and had more influence on the team then MM/TT openly said.

And I do understand WHY neither MM or TT would admit it. For the good of the team you just carry on

With TOG signing with the Vikes (if he hasn't already), can't wait for the Queens to be invaded by ESPN 24/7, local media feeding TOG quotes ad nauseam, and it being non-stop 24 hours a day of all about TOG. They have no idea the crap EGO storm thats coming.
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So TOG ruins last season for the Packers, NYJs and now he is working on ruining the season for the VQs. Fitting for both. 'Revenge is a dish best served cold". Maybe that should be "old"...in TOG's case.

No offense to Barnett, but he is dreaming if he thinks he will be fully recovered and playing at the top of his game by the beginning of the season.

The great Tom Brady too. He is going to struggle also.

ie., Tiger Woods...look at the troubles he is having. And he plays golf.

Now, next year, that could be a different story.
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ie., Tiger Woods...look at the troubles he is having. And he plays golf.

Now, next year, that could be a different story.


Pre-season should give us a pretty good indicator but ya, I'm not holding my breath that Barnett will be 100% either. But that should open the door for other LB's who are already making noise in OTA/Mini-camp.

As for TOG, I don't doubt for a second one of his motivators in persisting to "unretire" in '08 was to be a big a dick and much of a distraction he could be. Including the "hunting" conversation he had with Millen and the Lions coaching staff in week 2 Roll Eyes
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Wouldn't hurt my feelings if they let Chillar start and just PUP Barnett. That'd get him closer to a full year of recovery - although we're all aware he's unlikely to be the same player 'til 2010.
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I agree, LSU.
Although I'm sure Barnett would be itching to pull the trigger, I don't think there should be a big hurry to get him back on the field. Not only should Chillar, Popp, et al be able to hold the fort, putting Barnett on PUP would allow us to keep an extra player for that 6 week period.
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NFL players have been known to make amazing recoveries from their injuries. Look at what Carson Palmer did in 2006, or at what Tauscher and Clifton were able to do in 2003, they both suffered horrible injuries in '02, (Especially Clifton, and his was late in the season) and they came back to be key parts of what arguably was the best offensive line in the league. Let's just hope that Barnett is more of a Chad Clifton than a Justin Harrell. I think we all know that he has the work ethic and attitude of the former, the only other factor is whether he has a body that heals as slowly as the latter's. ACL injuries are no longer a two year deal with modern surgical techniques as they were back in the era when they had to almost literally take the whole knee apart and put it back together.
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Name the last 40 year old QB to win a Bowl.....

Correct. It has not happened.

The closest: 38 year old John Elway who went up against an Atlanta team way over-matched in all phases of the game.

The Queen's are hanging their hats on a known commodity: A QB who is utterly dead by championship standards and who has set a pattern of stinking up the place in the playoffs for 10+ years.

Vegas!!
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Blaming a 6-10 season on a player that wasn't even with the team in camp, that's just hilarious. Sure it's "distracting", but it doesn't affect what you do on sunday.

Injuries, Poor Coaching, Void of Leadership, and lack of depth hurt GBP. Not #4.

This season should be much better.
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Who blamed the 6-10 season on Favre? Not Barnett; he said it was a distraction. Nobody's blaming the team's crappy performance on the Favre saga.
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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Blaming a 6-10 season on a player that wasn't even with the team in camp, that's just hilarious. Sure it's "distracting", but it doesn't affect what you do on sunday.

Injuries, Poor Coaching, Void of Leadership, and lack of depth hurt GBP. Not #4.

This season should be much better.


Might be funny, but it happened.
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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Blaming a 6-10 season on a player that wasn't even with the team in camp, that's just hilarious. Sure it's "distracting", but it doesn't affect what you do on sunday.

Injuries, Poor Coaching, Void of Leadership, and lack of depth hurt GBP. Not #4.

This season should be much better.


Dude, you crack me up. Nice reading comprehension. Thumbs Up
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Goalline. "Crack" about answers it.
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Poor Barnett, with his focus torpedoed by Favre Frowner

Maybe he should head to da club and find a ho or two to push around. That always gives him clarity.
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TOG's obviously into records. I wonder if any player has almost single-handedly ruined the seasons of three different teams in three consecutive years. Go for it TOG!!
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Originally posted by 4 Favre:
Poor Barnett, with his focus torpedoed by Favre Frowner

Maybe he should head to da club and find a ho or two to push around. That always gives him clarity.


Maybe you should stop posting like a racist POS.
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goodpost

TOG ball washing just increases ones ignorance.
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^Oh snap, yeah, he got me... you know, aside from me never posting any racist comments, that is. Roll Eyes
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Apparently, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Try walking up to a person of color in a bar and try what you posted earlier out and I'll be willing to bet you walk out with fewer teeth than brain cells (which in your case the over/under appears to be about 10).
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So this dumb-ass wearing a #4 jersey walks into a bar.....
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Apparently, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Try walking up to a person of color in a bar and try what you posted earlier out and I'll be willing to bet you walk out with fewer teeth than brain cells (which in your case the over/under appears to be about 10).

Are you saying that an average black person would attack me because I said something perfectly in context about a guy in Wisconsin's legal troubles? Sounds kind of racist to me.
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Are you saying that an average black person would attack me because I said something perfectly in context about a guy in Wisconsin's legal troubles? Sounds kind of racist to me.


I'd say that what you're presenting as "perfectly in context" (which it isn't by the way) would be perceived to be every bit as as racist as it came off on this board which would cause you to get your ignorant behind kicked (or at the very least a drink thrown in your face because I doubt you'd have the guts to do so with a man unless he was quite a bit smaller than you are).

Don't take my word for it, try it out for yourself and report back.
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I'd say that what you're presenting as "perfectly in context" (which it isn't by the way) would be perceived be every bit as as racist as it came off on this board which would cause you to get your ignorant behind kicked (or at the very least a drink thrown in your face because I doubt you'd have the guts to do so with a man unless he was quite a bit smaller than you are).

Don't take my word for it, try it out for yourself and report back.

That was poorly phrased. What I said isn't one bit racist, because in context I'm referring to Nick Barnett, who has had publicly documented issues with his nightlife.

Racist would be walking up to a random black person and asking if they're going to da club to find a ho to push around. Maybe my comment erred on the wrong side of your hypersensitive political correctness, but racist it was not.
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Even though we all knew this was the case to some extent, I really wish Barnett wouldn't have admitted it. It just looks bad to say something like that caused problems for your team. Also, this is exactly the sort of thing that TOG wants to hear, why give him the satisfaction of hearing it from one of our team leaders?
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Originally posted by 4 Favre:

That was poorly phrased. What I said isn't one bit racist, because in context I'm referring to Nick Barnett, who has had publicly documented issues with his nightlife.

Racist would be walking up to a random black person and asking if they're going to da club to find a ho to push around. Maybe my comment erred on the wrong side of your hypersensitive political correctness, but racist it was not.


It wasn't "poorly phrased", it was ignorantly phrased, and political correctness doesn't have a thing to do with it.

Because Barnett is a professional football player who had an incident in a bar (and "HO" is purely your characterization and not what he or the reports of the incident ever mentioned) and not a "random black person" that makes what you posted any less offensive?
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Originally posted by PackManCA:
Even though we all knew this was the case to some extent, I really wish Barnett wouldn't have admitted it. It just looks bad to say something like that caused problems for your team. Also, this is exactly the sort of thing that TOG wants to hear, why give him the satisfaction of hearing it from one of our team leaders?

The biggest problem with his comments is that as a defensive player it really shouldn't affect him much one way or the other. And frankly, it was the defense that let the team down time and time again more than anything. It comes off as excuse making.
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