Pete Dougherty

McCarthy has been conducting NFL quarterback schools since 1993 and has kept the records of all the quarterbacks' performances in the position-specific testing drills.

"Aaron's at the top of every list," McCarthy said, "so that tells you the kind of athletic ability he has. He's a lot more athletic than a lot of people realize. So, physically, there's a lot to work with. Maturity-wise, him not playing the first couple years has helped him, and going through the process of preparing, you can see each year how he's improved in the classroom and his complete understanding of how everything works around here and he can apply it. He's smart. You have no limitations in game-planning volume. He can do everything we ask of him. So, there's a lot to work with. What he doesn't have is the experience."

In your face, icon.

Then there is this...
Packers nix veteran QB idea

Any thoughts that the Green Bay Packers will be interested in signing or trading for a veteran quarterback to back up Aaron Rodgers this year can be dashed.

According to Adam Schein of Sirius NFL Radio and FOXSports.com, "Packers coach Mike McCarthy told us on Friday that the team is not in the market for a veteran quarterback. This is Aaron Rodgers' team and he will be backed up by two neophytes in Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn. Brohm is a perfect fit in McCarthy's system."

It looks like any hopes of Daunte Culpepper, Craig Nall, Tim Rattay or any other veteran quarterback in a Packers' uniform are done. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.

An injury incurred during training camp could change that in a second. But for now, the Packers may be going with one of the youngest quarterback corps in the league.

http://www.railbirdcentral.com/2008/05/packers-nix-veteran-qb-idea.html

Do I think Rodgers sucks?
Nope. I think we're gonna have a Joe Montana - Steve Young situation on our hands. One HOFer following another HOFer.

That is great and all about Rodgers but what do Nall's buddies think?

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Originally posted by CAPackfan:
That is great and all about Rodgers but what do Nall's buddies think?

Although not specifically mentioned I think it's safe to assume Nall was a close second on all of McC's lists...right?

Reminds me of the early '90's with Favre, Detmer, and Brunnell. Now we just need to add a camp arm like Kurt Warner was.

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Originally posted by Boris:
Pete Dougherty

McCarthy has been conducting NFL quarterback schools since 1993 and has kept the records of all the quarterbacks' performances in the position-specific testing drills.

"Aaron's at the top of every list," McCarthy said, "so that tells you the kind of athletic ability he has. He's a lot more athletic than a lot of people realize. So, physically, there's a lot to work with. Maturity-wise, him not playing the first couple years has helped him, and going through the process of preparing, you can see each year how he's improved in the classroom and his complete understanding of how everything works around here and he can apply it. He's smart. You have no limitations in game-planning volume. He can do everything we ask of him. So, there's a lot to work with. What he doesn't have is the experience."

Yeah, maybe so, but he is no Brett Favre...Sorry, I couldn't resist it.

ARod, is going to be BIGTIME. I just love the way the kid plays. he's tough, smart and confident, and he has a great arm. Favre good, no, but he has a better arm than Brady, from what I have seen. Obviously, plenty good enough. His release? better than Brett's. Mobility? Better than Brett's.

We are SuperBowl contenders, y'all.

The two young QB's will make for an exciting pre-season.

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Originally posted by LSU4GB:

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Originally posted by CAPackfan:
That is great and all about Rodgers but what do Nall's buddies think?

Although not specifically mentioned I think it's safe to assume Nall was a close second on all of McC's lists...right?

Culpepper anyone?


roll on!

So it begins, the Aaron Rodgers Era. A.R.E. we ready?

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Originally posted by CAPackfan:
That is great and all about Rodgers but what do Nall's buddies think?

I'll get back to you about that after my next plane flight...

They wouldn't have run Favre out of town if they didn't have confidence
in Rodgers.

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by Boris:
Pete Dougherty

McCarthy has been conducting NFL quarterback schools since 1993 and has kept the records of all the quarterbacks' performances in the position-specific testing drills.

"Aaron's at the top of every list," McCarthy said, "so that tells you the kind of athletic ability he has. He's a lot more athletic than a lot of people realize. So, physically, there's a lot to work with. Maturity-wise, him not playing the first couple years has helped him, and going through the process of preparing, you can see each year how he's improved in the classroom and his complete understanding of how everything works around here and he can apply it. He's smart. You have no limitations in game-planning volume. He can do everything we ask of him. So, there's a lot to work with. What he doesn't have is the experience."

Yeah, maybe so, but he is no Brett Favre...Sorry, I couldn't resist it.

ARod, is going to be BIGTIME. I just love the way the kid plays. he's tough, smart and confident, and he has a great arm. Favre good, no, but he has a better arm than Brady, from what I have seen. Obviously, plenty good enough. His release? better than Brett's. Mobility? Better than Brett's.

We are SuperBowl contenders, y'all.

The two young QB's will make for an exciting pre-season.

I have some high hopes for Rodgers as well, but let me ask a few questions/comments:

- Can you explain how you have come to the conclusion that Rodgers is "tough?"

- A better arm than Tom Brady? Really?? The guy has played half a game. Rodgers shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as a guy like Brady.

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Originally posted by Pakrz:

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by Boris:
Pete Dougherty

McCarthy has been conducting NFL quarterback schools since 1993 and has kept the records of all the quarterbacks' performances in the position-specific testing drills.

"Aaron's at the top of every list," McCarthy said, "so that tells you the kind of athletic ability he has. He's a lot more athletic than a lot of people realize. So, physically, there's a lot to work with. Maturity-wise, him not playing the first couple years has helped him, and going through the process of preparing, you can see each year how he's improved in the classroom and his complete understanding of how everything works around here and he can apply it. He's smart. You have no limitations in game-planning volume. He can do everything we ask of him. So, there's a lot to work with. What he doesn't have is the experience."

Yeah, maybe so, but he is no Brett Favre...Sorry, I couldn't resist it.

ARod, is going to be BIGTIME. I just love the way the kid plays. he's tough, smart and confident, and he has a great arm. Favre good, no, but he has a better arm than Brady, from what I have seen. Obviously, plenty good enough. His release? better than Brett's. Mobility? Better than Brett's.

We are SuperBowl contenders, y'all.

The two young QB's will make for an exciting pre-season.

I have some high hopes for Rodgers as well, but let me ask a few questions/comments:

- Can you explain how you have come to the conclusion that Rodgers is "tough?"

- A better arm than Tom Brady? Really?? The guy has played half a game. Rodgers shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as a guy like Brady.

I agree. Seeing Rodgers as being better than Favre and Brady in any aspect of the game at this point is pretty ridiculous, even for a Packer board. What makes it even better is, this same lot jumped all over a Bear's fan about how grossly overrated Urlacher is, yet Aaron Rodgers has a better arm than Tom Brady?

Aaron Rodgers does have a better arm than Brady. So does Favre by a LONG shot. So does Peyton Manning & Carson Palmer & Rex Grossman & a whole lot of other QB's in the league.

Brady doesn't have a great arm. You will NEVER see Brady try to zip a ball between 2 defenders. He knows he'll get picked.

He said Aaron has a better ARM than Brady. He didn't say he is BETTER than Brady.

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Originally posted by LJames:
yet Aaron Rodgers has a better arm than Tom Brady?

Former NFL bust Tony Simmons was much faster than Jerry Rice. But how?

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Originally posted by packerboi:
It looks like any hopes of Daunte Culpepper, Craig Nall, Tim Rattay or any other veteran quarterback in a Packers' uniform are done.

Not sure if those were your words or theirs, but there were plenty of people who did not consider such a thing a "hope".

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Originally posted by Boris:
Aaron Rodgers does have a better arm than Brady. So does Favre by a LONG shot. So does Peyton Manning & Carson Palmer & Rex Grossman & a whole lot of other QB's in the league.

Brady doesn't have a great arm. You will NEVER see Brady try to zip a ball between 2 defenders. He knows he'll get picked.

He said Aaron has a better ARM than Brady. He didn't say he is BETTER than Brady.

Brady has a lollipop arm but he uses it well. Aaron's arm is better than Brady's. That's why Brady lasted til the 6th round. Good points, Boris.

I still think they drafted Jordy to make Favre happy.

Oh yeah, I love our QB situation.

Better arm than Brady??? That is questionable. Brady can throw it a mile and I he can put plenty of juice behind it. I DO think Rodgers has a quicker release than Tom Terrific.

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Originally posted by Boris:
Aaron Rodgers does have a better arm than Brady. So does Favre by a LONG shot. So does Peyton Manning & Carson Palmer & Rex Grossman & a whole lot of other QB's in the league.

Brady doesn't have a great arm. You will NEVER see Brady try to zip a ball between 2 defenders. He knows he'll get picked.

He said Aaron has a better ARM than Brady. He didn't say he is BETTER than Brady.

I will take a wait and see approach with Rodgers' "arm." I've seen him for only a few quarters of play and it looked good to me, not great.

I've seen Brady whip the ball 60 yards down the field many times over his career. That's good enough for me.... so is 50 td passes in one season and multiple SB trophies. He might be the best QB to ever play the game when it's all said and done. I'm not buying any argument about Brady's "arm." For the record, Brady doesn't have to zip the ball between two defenders. He's smarter than that. He finds the open receiver and doesn't make stupid decisions that cost his team a chance at victory. Just because he doesn't, doesn't mean he can't.

Would anybody care to address/explain Rodgers being "tough?"

Tom Brady, QB, Patriots - Scouting Reports - New England Patriots

WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal quickness. Forces the ball into coverage at times and tries to make too much happen. Doesn't have ideal arm strength; some of his downfield passes sail. Doesn't get great velocity on his vertical passes.

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Originally posted by LJames:

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Originally posted by Pakrz:

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by Boris:
Pete Dougherty

McCarthy has been conducting NFL quarterback schools since 1993 and has kept the records of all the quarterbacks' performances in the position-specific testing drills.

"Aaron's at the top of every list," McCarthy said, "so that tells you the kind of athletic ability he has. He's a lot more athletic than a lot of people realize. So, physically, there's a lot to work with. Maturity-wise, him not playing the first couple years has helped him, and going through the process of preparing, you can see each year how he's improved in the classroom and his complete understanding of how everything works around here and he can apply it. He's smart. You have no limitations in game-planning volume. He can do everything we ask of him. So, there's a lot to work with. What he doesn't have is the experience."

Yeah, maybe so, but he is no Brett Favre...Sorry, I couldn't resist it.

ARod, is going to be BIGTIME. I just love the way the kid plays. he's tough, smart and confident, and he has a great arm. Favre good, no, but he has a better arm than Brady, from what I have seen. Obviously, plenty good enough. His release? better than Brett's. Mobility? Better than Brett's.

We are SuperBowl contenders, y'all.

The two young QB's will make for an exciting pre-season.

I have some high hopes for Rodgers as well, but let me ask a few questions/comments:

- Can you explain how you have come to the conclusion that Rodgers is "tough?"

- A better arm than Tom Brady? Really?? The guy has played half a game. Rodgers shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as a guy like Brady.

I agree. Seeing Rodgers as being better than Favre and Brady in any aspect of the game at this point is pretty ridiculous, even for a Packer board. What makes it even better is, this same lot jumped all over a Bear's fan about how grossly overrated Urlacher is, yet Aaron Rodgers has a better arm than Tom Brady?

Seriously. I'm as excited as the next Packer fan, but I also want to see Rodgers be able to play in two consecutive games. If there is one thing we have learned from his limited action, it is that there may be issues with Rodgers' durability. Hopefully it was just bad luck and turns out to be a durable QB, but that remains to be seen. In the meantime, I don't think we are in any position to say he is better than Favre or Brady--two of the greatest QBs of all-time--in any aspect of the game.