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Picture of chickenboy
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Would you send Cleveland a first and third for Derek Anderson?

1. My belief is that the Vikes are a QB away from seriously contending and their defense is almost past it's prime.

2. CLeveland has NO day one picks. And Brady Quinn, home state boy, is probably still the QB of the future.

If I were the Vikes, I'd do it in two seconds.
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Cleveland signed him to a new deal yesterday. I have my doubts as to whether Anderson is the real deal. He had a solid year, but he had 19 picks, and only completed 56.5 percent of his passes.
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If I were the Vikings I would do it in a second. IMHO Jackson is NOT the answer.
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I honestly think the Vikes are too dumb to realize they're only a QB away; either that or they expect to score one via the draft/trade later.

Why did they go into last year w/ TJack again?
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Cleveland signed him to a new deal yesterday. I have my doubts as to whether Anderson is the real deal. He had a solid year, but he had 19 picks, and only completed 56.5 percent of his passes.


They can still trade for him. GB signed Williams before they sent him to Cleveland.
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Here is where my mind went:
If You Were the Vikings...which ex-Packer would you pick up this off season? Laughing

I like Derek Anderson and think he will only get better. Seems like a 1st and 3rd is a bit hefty, instead of that 3rd round pick add a player & go for it. But I hope the Vikes continue to be, well, the Vikes! 29
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The quarterback isn't the only thing broken with their passing offense. They need some receivers and a tight end too. How would Derek Anderson look throwing to Robert Ferguson, Bobby Wade, and Visanthe Shiancoe, instead of Braylon Edwards, Joe Jurevicius, and Kellen Winslow?
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If I were the Vikings I would have long ago slit my wrists.
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The Vikings are a lot more than just a quarterback away. Their wide receivers aren't very good. Their tight ends aren't very good. The right side of the offensive line is very average. They get little to no pass rush from their defensive ends. They also have depth issues all over the field.

And I'm not convinced that Derek Anderson is a top-flight NFL quarterback. He threw 19 interceptions last year and his QB rating was 82.5. That rating was 17th in the NFL among QBs that threw at least 200 passes. I like Anderson enough and I think he has upside left, but I wouldn't say he's a top 10 NFL quarterback at this time and I certainly don't think he is the one missing piece that can put the Vikings over the top.

And the situation with the Browns and Anderson is not the same as the situation with the Packers and Williams. The Packers did not sign Williams to a long-term deal before trading him. The Browns have signed Anderson to a long term deal. I haven't heard the specifics but I would guess Anderson's contract probably including a signing bonus in somewhere in the 6 to 10 million dollar range. So if the Browns traded him now, they would not only have to eat all of that cash, but all of that would count against this year's cap. So Anderson is going nowhere unless the signing bonus in his contract was minimal.
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They signed Berrian today.
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Originally posted by PackerJoe: The Browns have signed Anderson to a long term deal. I haven't heard the specifics but I would guess Anderson's contract probably including a signing bonus in somewhere in the 6 to 10 million dollar range. So if the Browns traded him now, they would not only have to eat all of that cash, but all of that would count against this year's cap. So Anderson is going nowhere unless the signing bonus in his contract was minimal.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3270420

Looks like only a three-year deal but with 13M or so guaranteed. It just seems to me that Cleveland is maybe a fringe playoff team that may be a couple years away from serious contending. They still have Quinn. I just think they will have to move one of them. A first and third would good to me if I was them.

Now is he worth that for the Vikes? I don't know. I do know that TJack won't take them to the bowl. Anderson is proven.
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...I'd be a homo.
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If Cleveland wanted a first and a third more than Anderson, they wouldn't have signed him yesterday. Since they'd tagged him at the first and third level, all they had to do was do nothing -- let another team sign him, they get a first and a third. If they were looking to trade him for that, agreeing to a three-year contract doesn't make any sense.
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If You Were the Vikings...


I'd see what bar Tommy Kramer was hanging out at.
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If I were the Vikings, honestly, I'd dissolve the organization and give the Packers Adrian Peterson and....no just Adrian Peterson.
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Originally posted by grbaypack:
Cleveland signed him to a new deal yesterday. I have my doubts as to whether Anderson is the real deal. He had a solid year, but he had 19 picks, and only completed 56.5 percent of his passes.


They can still trade for him. GB signed Williams before they sent him to Cleveland.


The Packers signed Williams to the franchise offer and then traded him, not a multi-year contract with a signing bonus. No cap hit.

CLEV signed Anderson to a multi-year deal with a signing bonus which would result in a very large cap hit if they traded Anderson. You have a better chance of being the Vikes QB next season than Anderson does.
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CLEV signed Anderson to a multi-year deal with a signing bonus which would result in a very large cap hit if they traded Anderson. You have a better chance of being the Vikes QB next season than Anderson does.


They don't have to pay his first bonus until April or something so they could still trade him and not take the hit right? This cap stuff is so confusing.
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Originally posted by PackerRick: You have a better chance of being the Vikes QB next season than Anderson does.


Interesting...

I do throw a mean jump pass but also have smooth skin.
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If I were the Vikings, honestly, I'd dissolve the organization and give the Packers Adrian Peterson and....no just Adrian Peterson.



....and then I'd donate those new uniforms to the Arena Football League.
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I can't get past the cold chill I get when I run the phrase "If you were the Vikings..." through my mind.
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Free agency is the penalty you pay for drafting poorly


"Having searched for a No. 1 wide receiver for years, the Vikings hope they’ve finally landed one in Bernard Berrian. The former Bears unrestricted free agent reached agreement on contract terms — six years, $42 million, including $16 million guaranteed"

"The Vikings had used the seventh overall pick in the 2005 draft on Troy Williamson, but he failed to live up to expectations and was traded to Jacksonville earlier in the week. Troy was looking forward to playing in humid Florida weather, so he at least had an excuse for his slippery hands"
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I know we're talking about the Vikings, but I have to laugh what that leaves the Bears for WR. Mushy Muhammed and . . .
Not to mention the 3-headed QB issue. Oh and the RB problem.
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I know we're talking about the Vikings, but I have to laugh what that leaves the Bears for WR. Mushy Muhammed and . . .
Not to mention the 3-headed QB issue. Oh and the RB problem.


Muhammed is gone. Bernard Berrian gets 42 million . . . sheer insanity.
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The Vikings are a lot more than just a quarterback away. Their wide receivers aren't very good.


Head coach? Hello.
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