http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic.../80611085/1058/PKR01

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“To lose the starting quarterback job to a guy of his stature, it’s a little easier on the ego, you know,” Majkowski said. “Obviously, he didn’t do too bad.”

I imagine he had a simile on his face when he said that.

I think the key phrase is: lose the starting qb job. Only losers lose. If he hadnt held out Favre might never have gotten the job.

He replaced him because of injury. Tomczak is who held out.

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He replaced him because of injury. Tomzak is who held out.

My memory is better than yours.

Don Majkowski’s holdout\

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11/28/2007 It had everything. From Don Majkowski’s holdout, perhaps the worst contract decision ever made by a pro athlete...

Majic hurt his ankle in game 3 against the Bengals, Favre came in, fumbled a bunch, then threw the game winner to Kitrick Taylor.

Should be fresh in the mind of all Packer fans.

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Originally posted by MesaPacker:

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He replaced him because of injury. Tomzak is who held out.

My memory is better than yours.

Don Majkowski’s holdout\

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11/28/2007 It had everything. From Don Majkowski’s holdout, perhaps the worst contract decision ever made by a pro athlete...

His holdout was early in 1991. Favre was with the Falcons.

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Originally posted by Ghost of Lambeau:

I imagine he had a simile on his face when he said that.[/QUOTE]

Looked like a metaphor to me.

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Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Majic hurt his ankle in game 3 against the Bengals, Favre came in, fumbled a bunch, then threw the game winner to Kitrick Taylor.

Should be fresh in the mind of all Packer fans.

Favre played the week before at Tampa Bay when he replaced Majik for the start of the 2nd half.

That was the game where Favre caught his own first regular season pass (deflected). We had tickets about the five yard line on that end of the field and it happened right in front of us.

At the time, I thought Majik had been injured because he had a pretty rough first half, but I found out later (from Majik himself) that Holmgren had actually benched him (which Majik strongly/vocally objected to).

He was injured the next week, and the rest is history.

Majkowski is like Pipp?

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Originally posted by MesaPacker:

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He replaced him because of injury. Tomzak is who held out.

My memory is better than yours.

Don Majkowski’s holdout\

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11/28/2007 It had everything. From Don Majkowski’s holdout, perhaps the worst contract decision ever made by a pro athlete...

Here's my memory of it.
From an interview with Steve Mariucci. One of many articles. Lucky start paved way for Favre


Lions coach Steve Mariucci was quarterbacks coach in Green Bay when Brett Favre arrived in a 1992 trade with Atlanta. A few early breaks paved the way for Favre's Hall of Fame credentials.
"He was a guy that we brought in to be a third quarterback," Mariucci said, "because that was what he was down in Atlanta. We had Don Majkowski, who had been playing well. Mike Tomczak had started several games the year before and wanted a starter kind of contract, so he held out in training camp."

Tomczak's holdout allowed Favre to move up to No. 2 behind Majkowski in training camp. Then Majkowski got hurt, pushing Favre up into the starting spot.

"The way it started was a little bit lucky in that he could have been third for a while," Mariucci said. "But he was playing well enough not to give Don his job back (when Majkowski got healthy), and Don was a heck of a quarterback.

Mariucci is wrong too. Tomczak was only with the Packers in 1991. The three QBs on the roster in 1992 were Majkowski, Favre, and Ty Detmer. Packer fans knew of Detmer because he had won the Heisman, and I recall many people calling for Detmer to start over Favre in 1992. Tomczak was in Cleveland in 1992 when Favre became the starter.

Majkowski's holdout was in 1990, the season after he took the Packers to 10-6.

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Originally printed by the Chicago Sun-Times:
MAJKOWSKI HOLDOUT SETS PACK BACK

From: Chicago Sun-Times
Date: September 9, 1990
Author: Brian Hewitt

Nobody knew much about a quarterback named Don Majkowski before the 1989 season began. Now, nobody know how much Majkowski's protracted contract holdout will affect a team he led to a 10-6 record, including four one-point victories, last season.

Majkowski and the Packers reached agreement on a contract worth at least $1.5 million last Tuesday, ending a 45-day holdout.

Observers say backup Anthony Dilweg, who was named by coach Lindy Infante to start the season opener, executes Infante's sophisticated schemes better than Majkowski. The problem is whether Dilweg's arm is strong enough to execute all facets of Infante's "pass-to-daylight" offense. Look for Majowski to make a quick return ...

Thanks PB -- of course Majkowski's holdout was in 1990. Why else would Anthony Dilweg have started the opener vs. L.A.?

Yes. Tomczak was with the team in '91, played and decided he needed more money. He was expected to be the No. 2, uncontested, going into '92 but because of his holdout the Packers cut him on the 47 trim down. I would hope Mariucci would have an idea. After all, he was the Quarterback coach on that team.
Likely scenario if Tomczak hadn't held out was that Favre would be No.3 and Detmer would have been hidden on the Practice Squad (I think they had the Practice Squad then).


From August 31, 1992.

Quarterbacks Tomczak, Kemp, Kupp Lose Jobs -- Anderson, Nelson, Hector Also Released
AP: Knight-Ridder Newspapers

Quarterbacks Mike Tomczak of the Green Bay Packers, Jeff Kemp of the Philadelphia Eagles and Craig Kupp of the Dallas Cowboys were among the players cut today as NFL teams trimmed their rosters to the 47-man limit.

Tomczak started seven games for the Packers last season but had a lengthy holdout during training camp this year and did not play during the exhibition season.

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Tomczak started seven games for the Packers last season... .

My God. Am I glad I don't remember that.

Do you also not remember that Blair Kiel made his third -- and final -- NFL start for the Packers that season?

Heh, heh. I was drinking a lot back then.

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Do you also not remember that Blair Kiel made his third -- and final -- NFL start for the Packers that season?

Seahawks in Milwaukee?

I was actually at a rest-room bar on Port Road in Glendale----forget the name---about that time. Blair Kiel walks in to take a pee and some drunk lout really lets him have an earful. It was just after he stunk up an exhibition game.

I truly felt sorry for Blair having to listen to that crap. Why do some fans feel they can say stuff to athletes that they'd never dream of saying to regular people? Envy?

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Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
I was actually at a rest-room bar on Port Road in Glendale----forget the name---about that time. Blair Kiel walks in to take a pee and some drunk lout really lets him have an earful. It was just after he stunk up an exhibition game.

I truly felt sorry for Blair having to listen to that crap. Why do some fans feel they can say stuff to athletes that they'd never dream of saying to regular people? Envy?

Quit hanging out at the Mpls airport bathrooms and you wouldn't have the problems.

But he was giving me signals.

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Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
I was actually at a rest-room bar on Port Road in Glendale----forget the name---about that time. Blair Kiel walks in to take a pee and some drunk lout really lets him have an earful. It was just after he stunk up an exhibition game.

I truly felt sorry for Blair having to listen to that crap. Why do some fans feel they can say stuff to athletes that they'd never dream of saying to regular people? Envy?

Quit hanging out at the Mpls airport bathrooms and you wouldn't have the problems.

Ugh. Our infamous senator. I wish he had flushed himself down the toilet that day! Mr. "wide stance."

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Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
Heh, heh. I was drinking a lot back then.

Nothing's changed, has it?