You could always hold out hope Randy Moss will join the Bears....maybe...ehh who am I kidding!

That was a great signing by the Vikes that they way overpaid to make. I can't believe the money dumped into Berrian and Williams.

8 or 9 in the box to stop Peterson? There'll be many long TD's to Berrian if they can find a QB. That is where they should've put their resources.

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Originally posted by Change of Possession:
That was a great signing by the Vikes that they way overpaid to make. I can't believe the money dumped into Berrian and Williams.

8 or 9 in the box to stop Peterson? There'll be many long TD's to Berrian if they can find a QB. That is where they should've put their resources.

Really, this makes me wonder if they aren't planning on another QB option. I threw out Anderson on another thread and I guess they have been sniffing around Sage Rosenfels. I find it funny that Bernard Berrian and Sage Rosenfels will be such big improvements for this offense. They really can't think TJack can become even an average QB next season can they?

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Originally posted by Change of Possession:
That was a great signing by the Vikes that they way overpaid to make. I can't believe the money dumped into Berrian and Williams.

8 or 9 in the box to stop Peterson? There'll be many long TD's to Berrian if they can find a QB. That is where they should've put their resources.

Berrian will just be a decoy. This is the year that Ferguson really has his Cris Carter comeback.

He's never really, really REALLY been given a chance to show his transcendent tallant, you know. Those first seven years were basically just the jumping jacks that they do before the games. Good call, PH - 2008 is the year of the Turd.

I thought this was the year of the rat, gotta get me a new Chinese calendar.

The Berrian deal might be the most ridiculous signing to date

$16M guaranteed for a guy that has had one semi-decent year? Huh? Only the Vikings could screw that up.

It's good news bad news for the Packers. The good news is that MN overpaid for him and now Chicago has nobody at WR but the bad news is that they overpaid for him and now it'll cost teams a lot more money to sign their guys.

Actually, I'd say $35 million for Donte Stallworth (not sure the guarantees) is more ridiculous. Stallworth is just a guy.

While it's a lot of $ to pay for berrian, it's not like it's gonna cripple the Vikings, they have the cap room and a very wealthy owner. I agree with TT in principle not to overpay but if there are players out there that will upgrade your team and you have the $ then spend it. I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it. Also, the cap keeps going up so these teams that are spending big now aren't necessarily shooting all their future bullets.

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While it's a lot of $ to pay for berrian, it's not like it's gonna cripple the Vikings, they have the cap room and a very wealthy owner. I agree with TT in principle not to overpay but if there are players out there that will upgrade your team and you have the $ then spend it. I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it. Also, the cap keeps going up so these teams that are spending big now aren't necessarily shooting all their future bullets.

Players salaries are paid out of the salary cap pot which is provided by the NFL from TV revenues. Not one dime comes out of the owner's personal wealth.

Maybe the Vikes will get Daunte back to throw the long ball to Berrian. After all, NFL Network know-it-alls are saying he is the #1 FA QB out there. Or did he already get snatched up?

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I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it.

So, you think TT is going to sit on the $24K he has? who is out there right now that he should blow it on and bring in to win a SB for the Pack this year?

I could be mistaken, but every year the Packers have used their available cap space. There's a mistaken impression that Ted leaves money out there. They are constantly moving contract payouts and extending contracts to use everything up before the NFL year is over. They are in an incredibly good position financially and I'd rather they keep doing what they are doing.

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I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it.

Exactly! Blow it on hookers, TT.

Of course, $24 mil in cap space was in instrumental in helping us score a second round pick. So, the signing of Berrian won't hurt? What if a real WR becomes available next year. Do they pay that guy as well?

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Originally posted by Change of Possession:
That was a great signing by the Vikes that they way overpaid to make. I can't believe the money dumped into Berrian and Williams.

8 or 9 in the box to stop Peterson? There'll be many long TD's to Berrian if they can find a QB. That is where they should've put their resources.

Really, this makes me wonder if they aren't planning on another QB option. I threw out Anderson on another thread and I guess they have been sniffing around Sage Rosenfels. I find it funny that Bernard Berrian and Sage Rosenfels will be such big improvements for this offense. They really can't think TJack can become even an average QB next season can they?

I heard they offered the Texans a 3rd round pick for Rosenfels and the Texans turned them down.

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Originally posted by eastcoastbacker:
I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it.

So, you think TT is going to sit on the $24K he has? who is out there right now that he should blow it on and bring in to win a SB for the Pack this year?

It just dawned on me, ECB might be on Danny Snyder's staff, with the 'have money, spend it quick on expensive guys' attitude

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Originally posted by Hauser:

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Originally posted by eastcoastbacker:
I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it.

So, you think TT is going to sit on the $24K he has? who is out there right now that he should blow it on and bring in to win a SB for the Pack this year?

It just dawned on me, ECB might be on Danny Snyder's staff, with the 'have money, spend it quick on expensive guys' attitude

Learn how to read. i was commenting on someone's criticism of the Vikings signing Berrian to a huge contract on how that somehow helps the Packers. I never advocated TT wasting $ and I don't think that there's anyone out there who could really help the packers other than Samuel and faneca and they were too expensive. I also don't feel that the Vikings made a bad move by signing Berrian. I do hope that TT brings someone in to challenge Poppinga, however.

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Originally posted by Chronic Hobbit:
I could be mistaken, but every year the Packers have used their available cap space. There's a mistaken impression that Ted leaves money out there. They are constantly moving contract payouts and extending contracts to use everything up before the NFL year is over. They are in an incredibly good position financially and I'd rather they keep doing what they are doing.

Exactly.

Sometimes we fans are just whiney idots.

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Originally posted by Chronic Hobbit:
I could be mistaken, but every year the Packers have used their available cap space. There's a mistaken impression that Ted leaves money out there. They are constantly moving contract payouts and extending contracts to use everything up before the NFL year is over. They are in an incredibly good position financially and I'd rather they keep doing what they are doing.

Exactly.

Sometimes we fans are just whiney idots.

Am not poopyhead.

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Originally posted by Hauser:

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Originally posted by eastcoastbacker:
I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it.

So, you think TT is going to sit on the $24K he has? who is out there right now that he should blow it on and bring in to win a SB for the Pack this year?

It just dawned on me, ECB might be on Danny Snyder's staff, with the 'have money, spend it quick on expensive guys' attitude

Learn how to read. i was commenting on someone's criticism of the Vikings signing Berrian to a huge contract on how that somehow helps the Packers.

Ok, well then you might SAY the same to others, as I wasn't the only one that questioned your comment about the $24 mil. Is it coincidental that your comment mentions the amount the packers are supposed to have? Maybe you should learn how to write. Maybe you didn't have to put a specific amount in your post in order to get your point across. Maybe something like 'I also don't agree with keeping LARGE AMOUNTS in cap space just to keep it'

I do want the Packers to spend some of their cap space and bring some players in to challenge Poppinga, the nickle corners and the two guards. How is not wanting to have the packers sit tight somehow automaticallly correlated to wasting $ on stupid contracts? Why don't you stop jumping to conclusions and looking for fights. If you've ever read any of my few thousand posts you'd know I'm a total advocate of TT's approach and not in favor of stupid FA contracts. i also think that taking a chance every now and then (eg Woodson and was totally in favor of bringing in Moss) isn't bad and the Vikings felt that Berrian was worth the risk - he certainly fills a huge need and can probably open things up for AD even more. A little pricey but certainly makes them better.

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Originally posted by Hauser:

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Originally posted by Hauser:

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Originally posted by eastcoastbacker:
I also don't agree with keeping $24M in cap space just to keep it.

So, you think TT is going to sit on the $24K he has? who is out there right now that he should blow it on and bring in to win a SB for the Pack this year?

It just dawned on me, ECB might be on Danny Snyder's staff, with the 'have money, spend it quick on expensive guys' attitude

Learn how to read. i was commenting on someone's criticism of the Vikings signing Berrian to a huge contract on how that somehow helps the Packers.

Ok, well then you might SAY the same to others, as I wasn't the only one that questioned your comment about the $24 mil. Is it coincidental that your comment mentions the amount the packers are supposed to have? Maybe you should learn how to write. Maybe you didn't have to put a specific amount in your post in order to get your point across. Maybe something like 'I also don't agree with keeping LARGE AMOUNTS in cap space just to keep it'

Hey Hauser, you were supposed to enter his head to read those thoughts just like the rest of us did. I mean, come on, why this emphasis on his little black scribbles? Eastcoast, you should write technical manuals.

Good for the Vikings. They have overpaid 2 average players. Good for them, afterall signing free agents has helped them quite a bit over the years.