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crusfied


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also, doesn't everyone remember that spitz was benched this year because of poor play? hardly a savior and a "stud". just a guy who can be marginal at several positions. he was benched people!!.because of POOR PLAY
I see one of your yahting buddies found the forum today
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Is there a full moon tonight? kworstie makes his second post in two weeks of nothing but wrong information (not even interesting anymore for humorous blasting purposes, BTW), youtube guy shows up and good ol' tlc chimed in.

Bong - have you been selling more magic toasters lately?
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Originally posted by kworst:
also, doesn't everyone remember that spitz was benched this year because of poor play? hardly a savior and a "stud". just a guy who can be marginal at several positions. he was benched people!!.because of POOR PLAY
I see one of your yahting buddies found the forum today


Didn't you see kworst in the video? He's the drunk guy passed out in the corner who wakes up long enough to yell "NAZI JOOO".
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Oh my god! Kworst! This thread is IMMORTAL!!!!
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Agreed. I think TT almost has to go out and get a guard.



TT went out and got 5 guards

klemm, o dwyer, 2nd round bust colledge, 3 round marginal player spitz, and 5th round bust moll

how can you possibly think he can "go out and get another guard" when he has failed on 4 1/2 out of 5. i'll give tt a 1/2 on spitz, but hey, he is a 3rd round pick. he should be starting.

any of gm would be crusfied for blowing 5 chances on finding a decent marginal starting guard


I think at some point you have to look at the coaching staff. Like you said, TT brought in 5 players (7 if you count Barbre and Whittaker), and not one has developed into an above average player.
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...5th round bust moll...


Don't there have to be high expectations for a player for him to be considered a bust? Generally "5th round" and "bust" don't belong in the same sentence unless the sentence involves talking about Jamal Reynolds vs. Aaron Kampmann.

Moll is not a bust and I'm sure has exceeded basically everyone's expectations. He was considered the biggest reach of the draft by many.
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Say what you want about the line but they have been great at pass protection. Looking around the league you can see what happens to QB's behind crappy pass protecting lines. Ouch.
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Allen Barbre still has a chance to do something. He hasn't done much yet but generally you don't expect rookies out of Missouri Southern State to come in and have an impact right off the bat. He could make a big jump from year one to year two.
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No doubt, we need some added talent on the OL, if nothing more than for depth, or to push the starters.

College, as I recall, disappointed the coaches at the very beginning of TC by not adding on the muscle they wanted him to during the off season. Specifically on the lower level, waist down. He is just not suited for guard IMHO if he cant put on more muscle. Perhaps he can be a LT, time will tell, even if it turns out to be as a solid back-up LT thats OK.

Spitz's development has been hampered by all the rotating positions, center and both guard spots. Some say his best position would be center anyway. Right now we have no back-up center. If Wells got hurt Spitz would have to shift there. So we could see a center drafted as well for depth.

Some college tackles are more suited for Guard in the NFL. It is possible to take a good college Tackle and convert him to Guard because his body type and atheticism is more what Guards need on this level.

Overall top 4 needs IMHO are: OL both Guard and Tackle (for reasons others have already stated), Cornerback for the future, again because our starters, while really good are getting on up there. Lastly, a good TE is needed to compliment Lee, and Bubba if he's even back. A safety and OLB are lesser needs to get further down in the draft.

If TT gets 1 or 2 of these needs filled in FA and the rest in the draft we can be set for a long time.

BTW, how would Faneca do in a Zone Blocking scheme? I think he will be too expensive for TT to go after but would just like to know.
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Originally posted by kworst:
also, doesn't everyone remember that spitz was benched this year because of poor play? hardly a savior and a "stud". just a guy who can be marginal at several positions. he was benched people!!.because of POOR PLAY
I see one of your yahting buddies found the forum today



All the bad weather on the east coast forced many yahts into harbour. snow
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Agreed. I think TT almost has to go out and get a guard.



TT went out and got 5 guards

klemm, o dwyer, 2nd round bust colledge, 3 round marginal player spitz, and 5th round bust moll

how can you possibly think he can "go out and get another guard" when he has failed on 4 1/2 out of 5. i'll give tt a 1/2 on spitz, but hey, he is a 3rd round pick. he should be starting.

any of gm would be crusfied for blowing 5 chances on finding a decent marginal starting guard


I advocate the firing squad. Thumbs Up
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College, as I recall, disappointed the coaches at the very beginning of TC by not adding on the muscle they wanted him to during the off season. Specifically on the lower level, waist down.


According to the coaches he really worked at it. He was there for the off season program. Don't give up on him.
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Coston's injury list appear to be a concern with the coaching staff.

I really doubt that they try to sign a tier 1 FA G like Faneca. Those guys, as pointed out in this thread, will be incredibly expensive. I don't think they could justify it.

I would rather see them pay a S than a G.
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Personally, I like Faneca. Here is the blurb associated with his FA status:

Faneca seems to be the most likely of this group to leave his current team. Rumors suggest that he plans on leaving after the season and has not discussed an extension with the Steelers. Faneca is a quality guard who has started in five Pro Bowls and been selected as a first team All-Pro five times as well. He also still has some prime seasons of his career remaining. Faneca will receive the most interest at his position, could be the most coveted offensive linemen after the season, and should also be one of the most coveted players available in all of the NFL.

Fanaca


Could not agree more but think that we cannot afford him and that TT dosent do much in FA.
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