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Aaron's the one guy in all of this who's really taken the high road. At 25 years old he been available, gracious, smarmy, honest and has controlled the media and the other whores in this debacle.

Watch him beat the crap outta the old uncommited (he should be commited) johnny come lately. Aaron will beat him on the field and beat him with the press right up until favre get's traded.

Aaron will have his moments in the preseason but he's here for the long haul. He's got my support 100%. Just watch the preseason unfold.
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As long as he can stay healthy.

That's really my only concern with Mr. Rodgers.
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Smarmy? Don't see that.
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ConfusedI don't think that he is "injury prone" at all. Everybody breaks/sprains/hurts things, and a QB is just that more likely to have it happen, that's all. Brett has been very tough & VERY LUCKY in his career though. I hope AR can do the same.
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If this thing truly becomes an open competition I'd love to see Rodgers put the old man in his place. Sure, Favre is a total legend, and the odds are long, but I'd love to see the young guy make the legend look silly out there.
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Smarmy? Don't see that.



Must be the 'stache.
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If this thing truly becomes an open competition I'd love to see Rodgers put the old man in his place. Sure, Favre is a total legend, and the odds are long, but I'd love to see the young guy make the legend look silly out there.


It won't matter, unfortunately. Look at it either way:

1. Rodgers 'wins' - The Favre backers will scream that it was a farce, that he never had a chance, blah blah blah...

2. Favre 'wins' - The Rodgers backers will scream about entitlement, wait until he chokes when it gets cold, blah blah blah...

I agree strongly with what our good friend Satori said - all this 'competition' will do is delay the inevitable fallout either way until just before the regular season, which is the worst case scenario IMHO. Get this settled now, one way or the other - the longer this takes, the more damaging it could be on the games that count. I'm fine with a competition, but it needs to be settled within the next two weeks at the longest.

That said, I do think Rodgers will win the job for many reasons, but we'll see I guess.
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Aaron and Brett are friends and I don't see this changing. I know it's not the first time Rodgers has had to compete for the job and I'm sure it's more of a challenge having to keep Favre out of the backfield then the competition he was facing with the two rookies.

The big problem will be if Rodgers struggles, will they jump to Brett too quick or give Rodgers a learning curve.
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I think the competion will be great for both players, and moreso for the team- the best QB will play. I am not totally convinced it's the incumbant from last season...
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QB controversies are never healthy for a team IMO
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Again, they'll publicly have a competition, but the "competition" has already been decided. Aaron is the guy, for now. If he gets in the season and looks like crap, eventually they'll look to Favre but that won't be until after week 8 at the earliest. I don't see it happening though. Go back and watch McCarthy's offense from last year, lots of short timing passes that depend on WRs to get YAC. Any QB can work in a system like that...Favre ran it very well, but any QB could do it. We have the best WR core in the NFL, at least 1 good TE, 2 great tackles, and a good backfield. If Rodgers can read the defense and make adjustments, which I firmly believe he's smart enough to do, then he'll be fine.

His only downfall might be injuries from holding the ball too long. Favre got the ball out really quick, and Rodgers will have to do the same to survive.
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http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/usc-...otbl-sched-2003.html
I had previously said that AR played well against USC but lost. I decieded that my memory might not be certain of that. So I looked it up. The season was 2003. Cal, led by AR, beat USC 34-31. USC's only loss that year.

Now, to the business at hand. I haven't read all the posts, so if this is redundant, I apologize in advance. This "competition" could be on of the most rigged events since the "Tour De Farce .. I mean France". Imagine Favre getted "sacked". It won't be the OL taking the rap. Comments like, "Farve, you should have stepped up and avoided the rush" will be common. He will be asked to run plays installed in the OTAs that he won't be certain of. I could go on, but I wouldn't want to infringe on GBs coaching staffs' creativity. I mean there are drug tests, minor change of plans, etc., etc. And then there is this kid who as a 18 year old fresh out of high school who took this Juco team to a 10-1 record. And as if that wasn't enough, he won the confidence of all the 22-24 year old players on the team. His name is Aaron Rodgers.

All I can say is that it is a good thing they didn't send Favre his locker.
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Again, they'll publicly have a competition, but the "competition" has already been decided. Aaron is the guy, for now. If he gets in the season and looks like crap, eventually they'll look to Favre but that won't be until after week 8 at the earliest. I don't see it happening though. Go back and watch McCarthy's offense from last year, lots of short timing passes that depend on WRs to get YAC. Any QB can work in a system like that...Favre ran it very well, but any QB could do it. We have the best WR core in the NFL, at least 1 good TE, 2 great tackles, and a good backfield. If Rodgers can read the defense and make adjustments, which I firmly believe he's smart enough to do, then he'll be fine.

His only downfall might be injuries from holding the ball too long. Favre got the ball out really quick, and Rodgers will have to do the same to survive.


After what has happened these past few weeks, I'm done predicting what will happen next. That said, I'd be very surprised if Rodgers is the starter on opening night if Favre is still on the roster. He'd be in an impossible situation. The guy was booed tonight, can you imagine what will happen if he throws a pick in the first quarter against the Vikings with Favre standing on the sidelines? Plus, the zealots will already be fuming at the mouth seeing how their hero's consecutive games streak came to an end.
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And thats some of the reasons it should be Favres job. Then if the season goes south due to injuries and what not, then let Rodgers play. Not handing him a job in a year where there is aspirations of going deep into the playoffs.
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And thats some of the reasons it should be Favres job. Then if the season goes south due to injuries and what not, then let Rodgers play. Not handing him a job in a year where there is aspirations of going deep into the playoffs.


Confused

I thought they weren't contenders, and that at least Favre would make more out of 'what is given.'?


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I don't really see this is a super bowl contender but I guess its possible. Inconsistent pass rush, oline question marks, aging cbs and inconsistent depth.


All things being equal Favre can do more with what is given. Rodgers is inexperienced and hasn't proven to be durable.
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If the team remains healthy they are contenders to go deep into the playoffs as they did with Favre last year. But going to a super bowl a lot of things have to go right.

If you give a team to Favre and the exact same team to Rodgers, I am confident Favre can produce more results.
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The guy was booed tonight, can you imagine what will happen if he throws a pick in the first quarter against the Vikings with Favre standing on the sidelines? Plus, the zealots will already be fuming at the mouth seeing how their hero's consecutive games streak came to an end.


Was he really booed? That's absolutely despicable and makes me a little embarrassed to be a Packer fan.
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I think the competion will be great for both players, and moreso for the team- the best QB will play. I am not totally convinced it's the incumbant from last season...

The incumbent is only 18-4 his last 22 games, and there is no reason to believe he all of a sudden forgot how to win/play. I wish BF would stay retired, but since he hasn't, no way AR beats him out IMHO.
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If you give a team to Favre and the exact same team to Rodgers, I am confident Favre can produce more results.


What about the 2009 season?

And the season after that?
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Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers are not long for Green Bay. My Grandfather was on the board of directors in the 1950s. I remember the stories he told about these self-important guys who thought they were big shots and knew everything, interfering in every aspect of the football operations. They created a disaster.

I think that's what is happening now. Murphy caved. He lost his nerve, and my guess is a bunch of the board members road him hard. I also would bet that the board is behind this bafoonish move of hiring Ari Fleischer. What a horrible mistake that is. Hire the mouthpiece for one of the most unpopular presidents in history. Brilliant.

As for Thompson, he's been neutered. Everybody knows it and I'd bet the mortgage he's planning his exit. And for a GM, now is the time to make the change. It's a shame, because I think Thompson is a real pro. And believe me, he didn't win NFL Executive of the year becaue of Favre. McCarthy knows that Favre has never wanted him as the HC and a new GM will want his own coach. He's got to be looking for a way out as well.

Rodgers. It's a shame. The Favre fanatics will never, ever give the guy a break. They want him gone. They think that if Rodgers is gone, Favre can continue to just show up in Green Bay and muddle along forever. They know nothing about Brohm, but now they like him because he is no threat whatsoever to Favre.

It's a disaster and we have Favre, a weak President and a meddling board of directors to blame.

The 1950's are descending on Green Bay. I hope everybody is happy.
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Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers are not long for Green Bay. My Grandfather was on the board of directors in the 1950s. I remember the stories he told about these self-important guys who thought they were big shots and knew everything, interfering in every aspect of the football operations. They created a disaster.

I think that's what is happening now. Murphy caved. He lost his nerve, and my guess is a bunch of the board members road him hard. I also would bet that the board is behind this bafoonish move of hiring Ari Fleischer. What a horrible mistake that is. Hire the mouthpiece for one of the most unpopular presidents in history. Brilliant.

As for Thompson, he's been neutered. Everybody knows it and I'd bet the mortgage he's planning his exit. And for a GM, now is the time to make the change. It's a shame, because I think Thompson is a real pro. And believe me, he didn't win NFL Executive of the year becaue of Favre. McCarthy knows that Favre has never wanted him as the HC and a new GM will want his own coach. He's got to be looking for a way out as well.

Rodgers. It's a shame. The Favre fanatics will never, ever give the guy a break. They want him gone. They think that if Rodgers is gone, Favre can continue to just show up in Green Bay and muddle along forever. They know nothing about Brohm, but now they like him because he is no threat whatsoever to Favre.

It's a disaster and we have Favre, a weak President and a meddling board of directors to blame.

The 1950's are descending on Green Bay. I hope everybody is happy.


What, no opinion on the Pope?
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If you give a team to Favre and the exact same team to Rodgers, I am confident Favre can produce more results.


What about the 2009 season?

And the season after that?


Duh! 4 more years at least. Favre needs to break Testaverde's records of having thrown a touchdown pass in 21 consecutive seasons and an interception in 19 consecutive seasons. In addition, Brett needing the NFL record for throwing touchdown passes to 70 different players.

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FWIW, one of the members of the executive committee (forgot who) was on the radio last week ripping TT for the way he was treating Favre. I can't help but think the executive committee had a say in what went down today.
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That's not a surprise. There was a lot of heated dissension within the BoD when Wolf wanted to trade a first-rounder for Favre. The level of influence the board wields is one of those murky areas we'll never be completely privy to as fans.
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FWIW, one of the members of the executive committee (forgot who) was on the radio last week ripping TT for the way he was treating Favre. I can't help but think the executive committee had a say in what went down today.


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