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Top 50: Chill, New England, there's no denying Brady now

I finally gave in, and some will say I had no choice. Not this year.

Tom Brady is the top-ranked player in the NFL. He earned it in 2007.

Tom Brady is not only dreamy, but a heck of a quarterback in New England.

After balking at putting Brady there the past few years, infuriating the New England region by making Peyton Manning the top-rated player, helping to land me on the list of the least-liked people in Chowder-head country, I have finally done what many of those angry people have waited a few years to see.

Brady, glamour-boy quarterback of the New England Patriots, has edged past Manning in my rankings of the top 50 players in the NFL.

It's close, but coming off Brady's sensational, record-setting season, coupled with Manning being forced to play without his top receiver for most of last year, Brady has to take over as king of the NFL.

Brady broke Manning's single-season record for touchdown passes with 50 in 2007. Fifty. Brady also threw for a league-leading 4,806 yards and topped the NFL in completion percentage (68.9) and passer rating (117.2).

It was a magical season, comparable to the one Manning had in 2004. That year Manning threw 49 touchdown passes, had a completion-percentage of 67.6, threw for 4,557 yards and had a passer rating of 121.1.

Manning had an off year, by number standards, in 2007. All he did was go over 4,000 yards passing for the eighth time in his career, throw 31 touchdowns and complete 65.5 percent of his passes, much of that without receiver Marvin Harrison on the field.

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Packers:

18. Charles Woodson, CB, Green Bay Packers: Ask Packers insiders who was better last season, Woodson or Pro Bowl player Al Harris. The answer is Woodson. After Bailey, I'd take him over all other corners.

45. Aaron Kampman, DE, Green Bay Packers: He plays all out all the time. Despite being light at 265 pounds, he holds up against the run at left end quite well. He has speed and strength as a pass rusher.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10877567

Prisco has 4 Vikings on his list including Allen at 12. But he also ranks Mario Williams at #6?!?!?!

Of course at this time of the year, it's all fluff crap.

Debate awaySmiler
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How come Craig Nall isn't on the list? Mad
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Woodson at #18? What a crock. Yeah, he's better than Tommie Harris, Urlacher and Hester.


The Packers are "in" again... tv
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How come Craig Nall isn't on the list? Mad


Good question. That list is so bad it wouldn't surprise me if he were.
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Yeah, he's better than Tommie Harris, Urlacher and Hester.

Apparently.
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Woodson at #18? What a crock. Yeah, he's better than Tommie Harris, Urlacher and Hester.


The Packers are "in" again... tv


What no Grobesman and Bustson? I thought you called these two "quality" players before last season DeepCrapcago? Hmmmm....

Spurtlacker sucks.
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Originally posted by DeepChicago:
Woodson at #18? What a crock. Yeah, he's better than Tommie Harris, Urlacher and Hester.


The Packers are "in" again... tv


What no Grobesman and Bustson? I thought you called these two "quality" players before last season DeepCrapcago? Hmmmm....

Spurtlacker sucks.


2007 stats

Urlacher 123 tackles, 12 passes deflected, 5 INTS, 5 Sacks and One TD

AJ Squak 105 tackles, 4 passes deflected, One INT, One Sack, Zero Tds



Are we ready to move on to Favre yet?
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Hawk does not play middle meathead. If you are going to compare stats try comparing MLB's to MLB's. Next, I'm sure you'll be comparing LG's carries vs Benson's huh? Maybe, SP can give you some help on those stats blowhard.

And Favre's stats this coming year will already blow away your two studs you got behind that OL.
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Hawk does not play middle meathead. If you are going to compare stats try comparing MLB's to MLB's.



Okay sugarpants,

Here's Nicky's stats...

131 tackles, 4 passes deflected, 3.5 sacks, 2 INTS
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Hawk does not play middle meathead. If you are going to compare stats try comparing MLB's to MLB's.



Okay sugarpants,

Here's Nicky's stats...

131 tackles, 4 passes deflected, 3.5 sacks, 2 INTS


Look who joined us.

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Woodson at #18? What a crock. Yeah, he's better than Tommie Harris, Urlacher and Hester.


The Packers are "in" again... tv


What no Grobesman and Bustson? I thought you called these two "quality" players before last season DeepCrapcago? Hmmmm....

Spurtlacker sucks.


This is just painful.
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Woodson at #18? What a crock. Yeah, he's better than Tommie Harris, Urlacher and Hester.


The Packers are "in" again... tv


BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

Hester might impress me if he can do something besides return a kickoff.
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How about Punts? How about catching a few TDS?

Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.
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I think Patrick Willis (43) has the biggest complaint. The guy only led the league in tackles last year by some 30 or so.

I give Prisco some credit for even doing a list like this, because basically nobody ever says, yeah, good job, I agree. It's like putting a "Kick Me" sign on his back.

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Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.


My memory is probably a little hazy, but I believe the Packers had a slight advantage in the dozen or so years between Ditka and Lovie Smith.
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Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.


Listen, I know the massive quantities of sugar is like a roller coaster for your pudgy little brain but unless you're 4 years old I don't see the "own" factor working in the Bears favor over the last 20 years.
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Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.


Listen, I know the massive quantities of sugar is like a roller coaster for your pudgy little brain but unless you're 4 years old I don't see the "own" factor working in the Bears favor over the last 20 years.


The last 20 Years? Who cares? How about all time?

20 Years? How about the last 4?

tv
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The last 20 Years? Who cares? How about all time?

20 Years? How about the last 4?

tv


So basically you're changing the definition of "always" to "whatever timeframes happen to support your argument."
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How about Punts? How about catching a few TDS?

Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.

This prediction is as gold as your prediction on Benson being the guy.
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Originally posted by DeepChicago:


Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.


Listen, I know the massive quantities of sugar is like a roller coaster for your pudgy little brain but unless you're 4 years old I don't see the "own" factor working in the Bears favor over the last 20 years.


The last 20 Years? Who cares? How about all time?

20 Years? How about the last 4?

tv


87-80-1, as you like to say. Doesn't that incorporate history?

But hey, if you wanna talk last 4 years, be my guest:

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Originally posted by DeepChicago:


Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.


Listen, I know the massive quantities of sugar is like a roller coaster for your pudgy little brain but unless you're 4 years old I don't see the "own" factor working in the Bears favor over the last 20 years.


The last 20 Years? Who cares? How about all time?

20 Years? How about the last 4?

tv


Let's focus Chunk. Is it "always", "20" years or "4" years? Now here comes that crazy part . . . those three options don't mesh well with the reality of the situation.
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The last 20 Years? Who cares? How about all time?

20 Years? How about the last 4?

tv


So basically you're changing the definition of "always" to "whatever timeframes happen to support your argument."



When I first brought up the fact that Da Bears own you guys, Did I mention the all time series? No Maxi, I didn't.

Stop eating while you type.
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What no Grobesman and Bustson? I thought you called these two "quality" players before last season DeepCrapcago? Hmmmm....

Spurtlacker sucks.


Lawlz! Good stuff! Not quite up to the level of "Tampon Manning" or "Marty Schottindahinder," but not bad!
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by DeepChicago:


Look for more of this to continue as the Bears continue to OWN you as we always have.


Listen, I know the massive quantities of sugar is like a roller coaster for your pudgy little brain but unless you're 4 years old I don't see the "own" factor working in the Bears favor over the last 20 years.


The last 20 Years? Who cares? How about all time?

20 Years? How about the last 4?

tv


Let's focus Chunk. Is it "always", "20" years or "4" years? Now here comes that crazy part . . . those three options don't mesh well with the reality of the situation.



Talking about 4 years is as dumb as talking 20 knucklehead, that's the point. We own you all time.

Like Maxipad, don't eat while you type.
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