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Originally posted by CAPackfan:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Clueless Sherman: 59-43


Wooden Ted: 40-37



Which is better?

and despite that, Ted's team has gotten further in the playoffs than Sherminator's teams ever did

That is nice, what did he do to make that team better the next year.. Went back into rebuilding mode. We had 32M in cap room going into our 6-10 bust out season last year.

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Originally posted by Diggr14:

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Originally posted by CAPackfan:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Clueless Sherman: 59-43


Wooden Ted: 40-37



Which is better?

and despite that, Ted's team has gotten further in the playoffs than Sherminator's teams ever did

That is nice, what did he do to make that team better the next year.. Went back into rebuilding mode.

Not really, no

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
I tend to give a guy that was 24 games over .500 (prior to Ted) and had 3 division champs and 4 playoff appearances a little more slack than I give a guy that is 3 games over .500 with 1 playoff appearance and 1 division championship.

I guess you arent very good at math.

TT inherited Sherman's cap mess and that's why it took a couple years to get things on track. Then he had to deal with another mess, TOG, a player Sherman had been babysitting for 5 years.

Have you ever wondered why nobody supports your point of view?

And still, diggr14 can't address how he'd use the cap space that evil Ted Thompson let go to waste.

Identifying 5 free agents with no concern for contract amount or length is what Joy Behar would do, it's what a person with little to no knowledge of the NFL would do, it's what a troll would do.

Surely you can help me understand how all these holes would be filled with the cap amount.

Or, you can ignore and change the subject because you can't do something basic like that.

Guess that 32M in cap room was there for show and tell. If he went out and spent some of it, they could have averted 7 losses of 3 points or less... and helped a rookie QB possibly achieve the same successes as the year prior. But no, Ted was being Ted. He prefers chilling around .500.

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Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
And still, diggr14 can't address how he'd use the cap space that evil Ted Thompson let go to waste.

Identifying 5 free agents with no concern for contract amount or length is what Joy Behar would do, it's what a person with little to no knowledge of the NFL would do, it's what a troll would do.

Surely you can help me understand how all these holes would be filled with the cap amount.

Or, you can ignore and change the subject because you can't do something basic like that.

I think I identified the two candidates in an earlier post... Brown and Dockery. If you think they would have cost more than 15M I'd be happy to break down the salaries for them.. but considering they dont, do I have to bother?

Maybe you can help me understand why you defend a GM that habitually leaves 15-30M in cap room each year open prior to the season when there are glaring holes that he can fill if he bothered to be creative and use it on a free agent or two or three. Im not just talking 2009. Im talking 2008, 2007, 2006. It's a litany of this kind of poor decision making. Im not saying go Dan Snyder or Jerruh Jones on the situation.. Im saying fill your key holes and be tight but aggressive.

I guess I like divison championships and playoff appearances too much to understand your line of thinking.

No, please break it down. You are aware of their cap numbers, right?

So, please detail for me what the offers needed to be to exceed what they accepted and would come to Green Bay.

Sorry, I'm not accepting "trust me" from you.

I'll be holding my breath Joy.

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Originally posted by Diggr14:

And yes, I think given the right treatment and money, any player will come to Green Bay. If you dont have a complete idiot as a GM, you should be in the market for any player. Green Bay is an attractive place to go, they are not marketing it very well or selling it as a destination rather than a siberia. Im sick of the schtick that black people do not like Green Bay. Look around. Most of our team is black. They have adapted quite well to green bay and alot of our key players have flourished and are collecting very nice paychecks. If you cant sell someone on your organization versus a virtual blackhole like washington.. then you are a piss poor GM and you should be fired.

You see, this is where you are wrong again, as usual. There was a poll of players, you know those FA you want to sign, where Green Bay was in the bottom 5 of places to play in the NFL. Instead of an idiot GM, maybe it's idot fans like you is why FA don't like Green Bay.

So it is Diggr that is the problem for the Packers not signing Free Agents! I KNEW IT!!!!!!!

Yep. Dockery's deal is essentially a 3 year 13M deal. I think it's a 5/25 on paper. But the last two years are unlikely to be seen. Brown's deal is a 5 year 37.5M dollar deal. 20M guaranteed. 11M SB - 2009/2019 guaranteed

2009: 4M 2010: 5M 2011: 4M 2012: 5M 2013: 6M Cap # for 2009 = 6.2M.

Again.. as I said. 6.2M + dockery's deal is alot less than 15M. Why do I have to explain this to you.

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Originally posted by ammo:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:

And yes, I think given the right treatment and money, any player will come to Green Bay. If you dont have a complete idiot as a GM, you should be in the market for any player. Green Bay is an attractive place to go, they are not marketing it very well or selling it as a destination rather than a siberia. Im sick of the schtick that black people do not like Green Bay. Look around. Most of our team is black. They have adapted quite well to green bay and alot of our key players have flourished and are collecting very nice paychecks. If you cant sell someone on your organization versus a virtual blackhole like washington.. then you are a piss poor GM and you should be fired.

You see, this is where you are wrong again, as usual. There was a poll of players, you know those FA you want to sign, where Green Bay was in the bottom 5 of places to play in the NFL. Instead of an idiot GM, maybe it's idot fans like you is why FA don't like Green Bay.

You know as well as I do that when it comes to player's careers they will chose 1. Money 2. Security 3. Organization first. They are business people. Some are dumber than others... but if you are a GM worth anything.. you should be able to sell an organization like Green Bay. It shouldn't even be hard.

and actually.. i think free agents probably don't like Ted Thompson... which might be part of the problem. If he cant sell his organization and they have no faith in him to make their career better... then, it might be that... and the idot fans that ride his jock of course.

Just like women, you don't get football either. Is there any crochet forums?

And since you are an NFL player you know this is fact.

Well he's making AR12's career better as well as Brandon Chillar, Clay Mathews, Jennings, hell just about everybody he's drafted.

Diggr, I've grown increasingly tired of your schtick.

You want to be contrarian that's fine but do it in a respectful tone and manner. Calling our GM and HC names is uncalled for and unprofessional. I won't allow it here.

FYI, take a good look at the record of the team this year. 9-4. Yeah I know it kills you to be proven wrong but you might as well get used to it and you better admit it when it happens.

Can we all put speculations on this board?

I speculate diggy has no brain.

This thread is turning into ask diggr.

Yeah I know you love the attention too. I get it.

Perhaps we could have a chat once a week with Diggr?

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Originally posted by Boris:
Yeah I know you love the attention too. I get it.

Perhaps we could have a chat once a week with Diggr?

I'm sure there would be a rousing turnout to chat with Diggr.

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Originally posted by Boris:
Diggr, I've grown increasingly tired of your schtick.

You want to be contrarian that's fine but do it in a respectful tone and manner. Calling our GM and HC names is uncalled for and unprofessional. I won't allow it here.

FYI, take a good look at the record of the team this year. 9-4. Yeah I know it kills you to be proven wrong but you might as well get used to it and you better admit it when it happens.

Since when does it kill me that we are 9-4? Guess you dont watch games with me. I am a huge packer fan. But there are obvious problems with the team that should have been addressed. GM and HC are two of the biggest problems. All those years Sherman was the HC and people were "namecalling" him here on the board.... with a much better record. I dont mind being labeled a "contrarian".. in fact, I feel it is the correct position to be in as a packer fan. If you read the other forums, im pretty sure that you will notice that I am pretty loyal to our rebuilding teams in Wisconsin. When they turn into winners and they accept mediocrity and rebuilding... I would then have a problem with that... just like I have a problem with what is going on at Lambeau.

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
and no hungry, youre not on ignore. I cant respond to every single goofball on here

Between artist and the rest of the trolls... it occupies enough time.

And yet, you don't show me a year where Thompson hasn't used most of the cap space. Don't know what you are studying in college but you should ask for a refund on any literature classes you’ve taken.

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Originally posted by Boris:
Yeah I know you love the attention too. I get it.

Perhaps we could have a chat once a week with Diggr?

Now you are thinking Boris. It's all about the ratings

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
and no hungry, youre not on ignore. I cant respond to every single goofball on here

Between artist and the rest of the trolls... it occupies enough time.

And yet, you don't show me a year where Thompson hasn't used most of the cap space. Don't know what you are studying in college but you should ask for a refund on any literature classes you’ve taken.

please read my posts. I understand he uses it and rolls it into the next year in the way of cap refunds on unlikely to be obtained bonuses and signs people to extensions... but im saying that leaving the cap money at the start of the year in the amounts he does hamstrings that current teams chance of winning. I wouldnt mind if he did that solely in rebuilding years.. but he habitually does it. It doesnt help the teams with legitimate shots go for that title.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
and no hungry, youre not on ignore. I cant respond to every single goofball on here

Between artist and the rest of the trolls... it occupies enough time.

And yet, you don't show me a year where Thompson hasn't used most of the cap space. Don't know what you are studying in college but you should ask for a refund on any literature classes you’ve taken.

I think the only college this clown is attending is the University of Burger King.