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Originally posted by Tschmack:
That's why I made the earlier comments about Minnesota

Since they've entered the league they have been fairly competitive despite not winning a division title since 2000.

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Originally posted by Music City:

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Chicago / GB is the bigger rivalry in my mind, but all I'm saying is that it's more about tradition and history than it is about some kind of competitive theory because in reality Minnesota has been a more competitive team versus GB than Chicago has

Just the throw some numbers in the fray, here's what I have found.

Starting with the 1961 season (the Vikings' first season in the NFL), here are the 4 divisional teams' win totals:

Green Bay 378 wins
Chicago 339 wins
Minnesota 381 wins
Detroit 304

If you're interested to know how much of an impact Favre and his teams have had on this list? Lets just take it from 1961-1991, which is pre-Favre:

Green Bay 230 wins
Chicago 226 wins
Minnesota 242 wins
Detroit 204

So what this basically tells us is that the Vikings have been the more comeptitive franchise since they entered the league, and certainly in the last 15 years. It's scary to think that Favre and Co. have accounted for 35 more wins than the Bears since he came to GB. The Vikings have actually stayed pretty close, trailing the Packers by 19 wins. The Lions have only won 100 games since the start of the '92 season, a difference of 58 wins- ouch.

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Originally posted by Anthony Dilweed:

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Originally posted by Tschmack:
That's why I made the earlier comments about Minnesota

Since they've entered the league they have been fairly competitive despite not winning a division title since 2000.

plus up until brad childress came around they had a pretty good track record beating favre both in the dome and more recently at lambeau field.

i'd say the rivalry pretty much heated up when moss came into the league and tore up the packers at lambeau and killed their long home winning streak.

maybe now that moss is gone, the bears have retaken that position but for quite a while we were public enemy #1 as long as 84 was here.

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Originally posted by FRZ:

Hey! Was that back when you were a Packer fan?!?!?