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Location: IInitiative comes to thems that wait
Registered: 11-23-2007
Posts: 172
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I'm hoping for the best, but this article makes an awful lot of baseless assumptions.
I'll buy Olsen stepping up and making more receptions. Assuming Hester is going to get better is a wild guess. The first thing that has to happen is that Devin needs to understand the offense and the changes that are coming with Cutler under center. Sorry, but Devin is no Rhodes scholar and I am not so sure about his football IQ either. He needs to make catches and run good routes on a consistent basis. Haven't seen it out of him yet. Assuming two rooks will contribute in a big way at wideout is just plain ridiculous. Upgraded or not, the OL has not taken a snap as a unit. I have voiced my opion on lovie time and again here, I won't go over it again. I smell mediocrity, again. |
 Location: Antarctica
Registered: 01-10-2004
Posts: 14566
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Couldn't agree more. Any rookie WR that has 45 receptions or more is a great rookie season. Expecting (or assuming) that to happen out of TWO rookie WR's? Only way I see that happening is if the Bears schedule changes to play Temple & Ball State all season. The Bears have a shot. Maybe Lovie's "hands on" approach with the defense will help but something tells me no. They shipped the farm over to Denver to acquire Cutler. What good is a decent QB without WR's? I guess we're going to find out this season.  P.S. I still say Cutler = Jeff George |
 Location: Rockford, IL
Registered: 02-02-2000
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Registered: 04-21-2000
Posts: 916
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Well, you thought we'd suck last year, and we were decent, so "mediocrity" could mean a Super Bowl run .As much as I would have loved to have a guy like Boldin in the fold, I'm OK with our receivers. We have 2 excellent receiving tight ends, one of the better receiving running backs, a nice deep threat in Hester, and Rashied Davis has been an effective slot receiver for us. Assuming we can find a possession guy from the young guys (Iglesias or Bennett) we'll be in pretty good shape. Everyone talks about how great Cuttler's weapons were in Denver, but he had a rookie starting for him last year in Denver, too (Royal). I'd rather see what the young guys can do versus bringing in retreads like Torry Holt or Marvin Harrison. B-N-D |
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Location: Antarctica
Registered: 01-10-2004
Posts: 14566
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Yeah between the 2 you'll have 1 James Thrash. Congrats on that!
 At least you're original. |
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Location: Rockford, IL
Registered: 02-02-2000
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 Location: Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning
Registered: 11-14-2001
Posts: 9633
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 Location: MN
Registered: 04-29-2000
Posts: 2123
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"Bores a Superbowl Contender?"
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 Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
Posts: 19128
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 Location: Shoreview, MN USA
Registered: 09-18-2000
Posts: 14396
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wow has that proven not to be prophetic "The way Cutler uses the tight end, especially on third downs and in the red zone...." Yeesh I think Culter will ultimately be good for them but his confidence is at an all time low right now and i'm not sure he'll be able to turn that around this year. Part of that I believe is due to overall weakness at the receiver position, none of them are very reliable targets - not that they won't be someday. They needed one go to guy in the mix, they said it was the TE's but that's just not enough - it needs to be somebody with more speed. knox has shown some flashes but is too raw combine that with an offensive line that's as big of a train wreck as any and it has turned into a disaster. the fans were sold a bill of goods that couldn't quite work, set the bar way too high and put all the pressure on one guy that wasn't quite good enough to pull it off. maybe a tom brady or peyton manning could have made it work on that offense but they are about the only ones. |
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Location: IInitiative comes to thems that wait
Registered: 11-23-2007
Posts: 172
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SB run? More like a fetid bucket of suck. The new war cry: "Fire Turner!" . Yes, please do, but don't expect an immediate turn around with the roster this team currently has.How do they change the roster? Not through the draft. Through free agency? HA! Let the excuse mill run for Little Jay, he's our quarterback.
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 Registered: 11-30-2006
Posts: 878
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Horrible coaching, horrible o-line, horrible QB,
Let's make Chicago the third city! |
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Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
Posts: 19128
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People want to focus on the Bears and their pathetic receiving corps and shaky QB play, but the reality of it is that they've gone Tampa Bay in terms of their aging defense and lack of good defensive draft picks in the pipeline to fill the gap(s).
Going back to Ulracher in 2000 they have basically ignored drafting defensive players high in the draft with the exception of Michael Haynes (bust) and Tommie Harris (pretty solid). That's 2 out of their 8 last first rounders going for defense, and making matters worse they dealt away their 1st rounder in 2006 and 2009. Heck, they don't have a 1st rounder next year either. That bad defense isn't doing them any favors |
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Registered: 04-21-2000
Posts: 916
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The receivers have been a pleasant surprise, actually. Hester, Knox and Bennett have all performed pretty well. There were at least three easy TDs last night (to Hester, Knox, and Olsen) that Cutler overthrew. Can't blame the receivers for that. We still need a big, middle-of-the-field target, but the receiving corps, unlike the rest of the team, at least shows some potential. B-N-D PS: Thanks to the kind folks of X4 for the schadenfreude! Can't you people just be pleased your team eeked out a win against the 49ers?  |
 Location: Thanks Ted.
Registered: 10-04-2004
Posts: 12200
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Page 1, posted June 29th.
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Location: IInitiative comes to thems that wait
Registered: 11-23-2007
Posts: 172
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Inability to draft period. Not one Pro Bowl position player has been drafted by Angelo since 2004. 43 picks since 2004 and not much to show for it. |
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Registered: 04-21-2000
Posts: 916
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Cedric Benson will make the Pro Bowl this year  .B-N-D |
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Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
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Location: Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning
Registered: 11-14-2001
Posts: 9633
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You trying to tell us Angelo is not very good GM? |
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Registered: 04-21-2000
Posts: 916
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Angelo's OK. As time goes on, it has become more and more clear to me that he's getting ZERO help from his coaching staff. Angelo's drafted plenty of young guys who are having success elsewhere: Chris Harris, Cedric Benson, Brandon McGowan, Justin Gage, etc., but Lovie and his staff either misjudged their ability (keeping Archuleta and trading Harris, that was smart ), or failed to maximize their potential (Benson).Nobody complained when Angelo extended the contracts of key young players like Tommie Harris, Nathan Vasher, Brian Urlacher and Devon Hester, but Lovie and his coddling staff either turned them into lazy fat cats (Tommie Harris has become the defensive equivalent of Jamarcus Russell), or, in the case of Hester, forced the team's most dangerous weapon to change roles. Virtually everyone applauded Angelo when he brought in Cutler, but he looks like an idiot now that Lovie and Turner have him playing like a scared, neutered Kyle Orton. I'm not saying Angelo is a genius, but his coaching staff could screw up a wet dream. B-N-D |
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Location: IInitiative comes to thems that wait
Registered: 11-23-2007
Posts: 172
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Angelo put this staff in place. I have made the point previously about Lovie and company not being able to evaluate and develop talent and been ripped for it. Not by you, but I'm just sayin'.
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Registered: 11-30-2006
Posts: 878
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I've hated Turner since the Carolina playoff game in 05. His ego is too big while his mind is too small. |
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Location: Rockford, IL
Registered: 02-02-2000
Posts: 1597
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No shock there, just look who posted on this thread this week. Nothing like a shot of 20/20 hindsight fuel to start the Troll Train rolling. |
 Location: Give me a toot, I'll sell you my soul.
Registered: 01-23-2005
Posts: 5520
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The Packers were going to be good and the Bears were gonna suck this year. Everyone knew that. Not sure how that is hindsight???  Always cracks me up when a troll calls other posters a troll. Nice work there geenyous!  |
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Registered: 04-21-2000
Posts: 916
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The analyst whose commentary was the topic of this thread didn't think so. Neither did Sports Illustrated (Super Bowl prediction), Football Outsiders (Super Bowl prediction), or numerous other football magazines and analysts. I assume your hyperbole is an attempt to prove a point, but give me a break. FYI, trolling is trolling. Necroposting on a six-month old thread on a NFC North board to simply post "ROTFL" icons is trolling. I didn't have much of a problem with it, personally, but don't get self-righteous about it. B-N-D |
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