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Picture of DurangoDoug
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Looks like TT was able to push at least $7.2 Mil of 08 Cap money to the 09 Cap right at the end of the year on a LTBE bonus.

There are probably other LTBE dollars pushed into 09 as well???

With the 09 Cap expected to be around $123 Mil, plus the $7.2 that gives the Pack at least $130.2 or more to play with.

I think I read the Pack has like $105 Mil already tied up in 09 contracts.

So, am I correct that TT has about $25 mil or more to sign draft picks, FA's, extend contracts and re-sign guys for 09?
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  Year Last Name     First Name LastYr Pos base     PRSB         LTBE  CAP 
1 2009 Gbaja-Biamila Kabeer     2009   DL  0.00     1,571,429.00 0.00  1,571,429.00 
2 2009 Hodge         Abdul      2009   LB  0.00     202,000.00   0.00  202,000.00 
3 2009 Coston        Junius     2009   OL  0.00     43,200.00    0.00  43,200.00 
4 2009 Culver        Tyrone     2009   S   0.00     23,375.00 0.00 23,375.00 
1 2009 Rodgers       Aaron      2009   QB 680,000   1,052,000 7,927,440 9,659,440 
2 2009 Clifton       Chad       2009   OL 4,367,500 1,666,666 2,000,000 8,034,166 
3 2009 Driver        Donald     2010   WR 3,900,000 1,366,667 1,206,720 6,473,387 
4 2009 Woodson       Charles    2012   CB 4,000,000 800,000 1,333,500 6,133,500 
5 2009 Kampman       Aaron      2009   DL 3,900,000 2,000,000 100,000 6,000,000 
6 2009 Hawk          A.J.       2011   LB 3,025,000 2,371,250 500,000 5,896,250 
7 2009 Harris        Al         2011   CB 3,000,000 875,000 1,256,720 5,131,720 
8 2009 Barnett       Nick       2012   LB 3,000,000 1,308,571 525,000 4,833,571 
9 2009 Grant         Ryan       2011   RB   750,000 3,500,000 4,250,000 
10 2009 Jenkins      Cullen     2010   DL 2,650,000 1,000,000 410,000 4,060,000 
11 2009 Pickett      Ryan       2009   DL 2,975,000 500,000 25,000 3,500,000 
12 2009 Poppinga     Brady      2012   LB 1,900,000 950,000 2,850,000 
13 2009 Lee          Donald     2011   TE 1,800,000 285,000 2,085,000 
14 2009 Chillar      Brandon    2009   LB 1,350,000 275,000 400,000 2,025,000 
15 2009 Wells        Scott      2011   OL 1,500,000 350,000 1,850,000 
16 2009 Collins      Nick       2009   S    545,000 370,000 915,000 
17 2009 Nelson       Jordy      2011   WR   385,000 425,000 83,750 893,750 
18 2009 Colledge     Daryn      2009 OL 530,000 325,000 0 855,000 
19 2009 Jennings     Greg       2009 WR 530,000 310,000 0 840,000 
20 2009 Spitz        Jason      2009 OL 530,000 185,560 0 715,560 
21 2009 Jackson      Brandon    2010 RB 460,000 190,000 0 650,000 
22 2009 Harrell      Justin 2012 DL 460,000 0 186,625 646,625 
23 2009 Jones        James 2010 WR 460,000 185,562 0 645,562 
24 2009 Blackmon     Will 2009 CB 530,000 108,375 0 638,375 
25 2009 Rouse        Aaron 2010 S 460,000 162,375 0 622,375 
26 2009 Frost        Derrick 2009 P 620,000 0 0 620,000 
27 2009 Pettway      Kenneth 2009 DL 620,000 0 0 620,000 
28 2009 Brohm        Brian 2011 QB 385,000 225,000 0 610,000 
29 2009 Lee          Patrick 2011 CB 385,000 210,000 0 595,000 
30 2009 Barbre       Alan 2010 OL 460,000 109,000 0 569,000 
31 2009 Moll         Tony 2009 OL 530,000 36,250 0 566,250 
32 2009 Jolly        Johnny 2009 DL 530,000 23,650 0 553,650 
33 2009 Finley       Jermichael 2011 TE 385,000 163,250 0 548,250 
34 2009 Peprah       Charlie 2009 S 530,000 0 0 530,000 
35 2009 Thompson     Jeremy 2011 DL 385,000 125,300 0 510,300 
36 2009 Hall         Corey 2010 RB/LB 460,000 23,613 0 483,613 
37 2009 Bishop       Desmond 2010 LB 460,000 23,550 0 483,550 
38 2009 Crosby       Mason 2010 K 460,000 23,488 0 483,488 
39 2009 Sitton       Josh 2011 OL 385,000 96,000 0 481,000 
40 2009 Wynn         DeShawn 2010 RB 460,000 12,727 0 472,727 
41 2009 Giacomini    Breno 2011 OL 385,000 44,791 0 429,791 
42 2009 Flynn        Matt 2011 QB 385,000 16,044 0 401,044 
43 2009 Goode        Brett 2010 LS 385,000 0 0 385,000 
44 2009 Havner       Spencer 2007 LB 385,000 0 0 385,000 
45 2009 Jansen       Jeffrey 2010 LS 385,000 0 0 385,000 
47 2009 Lansanah     Danny 2010 LB 385,000 0 0 385,000 
48 2009 Lumpkin      Kregg 2010 RB 385,000 0 0 385,000 
49 2009 Moore        Evan 2010 TE 385,000 0 0 385,000 
50 2009 Porter       Joe 2009 CB 385,000 0 0 385,000 
51 2009 Stephenson   Cameron 2009 G 385,000 0 0 385,000 
         94,081,947 

 
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I am confused about the amount of cap space available. I keep reading
$25M.
It looks to me like more than that. $123M estimated cap figure, plus the
$7M moved forward makes $130M. Then subtracting $94M makes $36M. Used
$94M instead of the $105M being used by most people because only the top
51 salaries are included plus any residual from players no longer on the
team.
I am probably wrong, but where and how ????
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No, you're probably right.

CP is the cap expert though. Still waiting for him to weigh in on this.

The Packers, Eagles & Pats have traditionally been the teams with the most cap space available in recent years, which is why I believe your numbers may be correct.
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TEAM-BY-TEAM CAP NUMBERS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 11, 2009, 12:25 p.m. EST
[URL=http://www.profootballtalk.com/ 2009/02/11/ team-by-team- cap-numbers/[/URL]

At this time of year, the cap is extremely fluid so those numbers will
change...plus they DO NOT account for any of the RFA tenders [which
haven't been reported yet (to my knowledge)]. Additionally, the cap
(currently estimated at ~$123m) has not been fixed yet (it could be
higher). The last factor is "carry-forward" amounts teams will have
based on 2008 LTBE that were not met. I've read the Packers will have
at least $7.2+m from 2008 LTBE that they will carry-forward into 2009
(and I think it'll be closer to ~$8m based on Brohm & Pat Lee not
meeting their PT incentives).

Hope this helped...

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$ 36 Million under

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

The NFL has finished calculating teams' salary-cap commitments and credits, and the Green Bay Packers will have about $36 million in salary-cap room when the new fiscal year starts Thursday at 11 p.m., according to a source with access to NFL salary information.
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I'll just apply for my finders fee - after I report that amount of unused, taxable, and swipeable money to Obama. Big Grin
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JSO and Press Gazette have different numbers. JSO says 28 million after all the adjustments and Press Gazette says 36 miilion after all adjustments. Who ya gonna believe?
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I prefer to believe the Gazette and oh by the way it was just announced the new cap number is 127 million as teams didnt spend enough money the last for years so the CBA upped the cap # so GB is 41 million under right now.
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quote:
Originally posted by Floridarob:
JSO and Press Gazette have different numbers. JSO says 28 million after all the adjustments and Press Gazette says 36 miilion after all adjustments. Who ya gonna believe?


I'll wait for CP's numbers. Smiler

WOOHOO!!! $41 Million in cap room!!!!

Sign Jennings!!
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Jennings will be signed.

Take that to the bank (although I'd much rather have what he's about to take to the bank).
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The longer Jennings waits, the higher the number goes

He is smart to wait until after this next FA frenzy is completed and he can lean on the contracts of the recent WR signings as a basis for his.
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Boris where do you think the Press Gazette got there 36 million number ? Lets see 36million under and 4 million higher cap number equals 40 million under , I guess I wasss so excited I over added by a million. They still should be able to sign Jennings though and at least a few others.
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Generally CP gathers his info from a lot of sources which is why I think his numbers are about as accurate as anyone's.

No matter what we have a lot of cap room. Smiler

Thank you TT and crew!
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