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Location: Siberia
Registered: 01-10-2004
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![]() Location: Do you feel that Italian families allow for individuality?
Registered: 01-06-2006
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Wow. The #1 pick is really a shocker.
I've seen Bennett going to the Packers in a lot of mocks lately. I've never seen him play, but I've heard reports about his character and supposed lack of commitment to the game. I just have a hard time picturing him and Brandon Flowers/Aqib Talb in Green & Gold. |
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Registered: 01-11-2002
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Yeah, I can't figure out why some people think it's so unlikely the Dolphins might actually draft a franchise offensive tackle with the top pick. I mean, it's a pretty huge need for them and the guy is a great player. Why NOT?
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Location: René Descartes was a drunken fart. 'I drink therefore I am.'
Registered: 01-11-2004
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because it's not sexy
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Registered: 01-11-2002
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Well, every draft doesn't have an explosive return man you can take in the top 10 like Ted Ginn Jr.
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Location: René Descartes was a drunken fart. 'I drink therefore I am.'
Registered: 01-11-2004
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without Ginn, do the Phins win that one game?
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Location: Siberia
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I think it would be a little surprising if the Dolphins take a guy like Ghoulston.
A LB'er has been selected #1 overall only 3 times since 1966 1966 Tommy Nobis - Atlanta Falcons 1979 Tom Cousineau - Buffalo Bills 1988 Aundray Bruce - Atlanta Falcons |
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Location: Madison, WI USA
Registered: 08-18-2000
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I don't think having Gholston at #1 is a stretch at all. I honestly think Gholston has the most upside of any player in this draft outside of McFadden. I would also say that this is the lowest grading #1 pick I've seen in quite awhile, so I don't think it would be that bad of an idea to gamble on the possible greatness. Gholston could be better than DeMarcus Ware is with the Cowboys, so I wouldn't be at all suprised to see Parcells take him. If he can make the adjustment to playing OLB, there is no reason why he can't be a 12+ sack guy year in and year out for the Dolphins.
If the Patriots take Keith Rivers I highly doubt they would try to play him at OLB. Actually the Rivers to the Patriots pick doesn't make much sense to me. I would be absolutely shocked if the Bears take a WR in round one. I can't see the Lions taking Dan Conner at #15. I had made this same projection a couple of months back but now I don't think it makes any sense. Especially when looking at their running back situation and having both Mendenhall and Stewart still on the board. I am still puzzled about every NFLDraftScout mock alway projecting Cason to the Packers. He isn't the ideal fit for them. He also is grading out much lower than #30. Pro Football Weekly currently has him at #86 overall, Kiper has him at #70 overall. If the Packers were going to over-draft somebody, I would think that player would be a bit of a better fit than Cason is. I do like that Martellus Bennett pick in the second round. I've always been real impressed by just watching him move on the field. He has size and looks very quick and fluid. He won't be my #1 tight end in this draft but he probably has more upside than any tight end in this class. I'm not so high on Ray Rice. He'll probably carry a grade on my final board right in this area...I would just be kind of hesitant to take a running back this high with Grant and Jackson on board. The McGlynn pick would be OK with me. He'll likely be much lower on my board (5th or 6th rounder), but Pro Football Weekly has him as a solid 4th rounder and Kiper has him late in the 3rd, so I'll defer to the draft guru's on this one (and won't argue that the Packers don't need an offensive lineman this high). |
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Location: IL
Registered: 06-26-2007
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It may be updated but it's the same old song and dance. This guy still has the Packers taking a CB, TE and RB with their first three picks. Not too likely.
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Registered: 11-14-2001
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I am not sure if you know the history of Chad or not but he does have a history of being pretty spot on with his comments. |
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Location: Siberia
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Case in point was Chad picking Nick Barnett in round 1 when Bob McGinn selected Kenny Peterson (who was drafted in the top of round 3). If I only had one choice to listen to a draft guru, Chad Reuter is the guy I choose. He's as close to an "insider" as you will get on these message boards. Sorry Grave Digger, I had to put you in 2nd place |
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Registered: 02-02-2000
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If we got Rice in Round 2 I'd have a 3 some with Rodgers and Fedya.
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Location: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Registered: 01-19-2005
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I would think that the Dolphins would go Chris Long with the first pick if they thought they'd have a shot at Groves at the top of Round 2. Grab one of the lummoxes in Round 3 or 4 and they might have a pretty versatile front 7. I just don't think Jake Long has the feet to play LT in the pros. |
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Location: New Orleans, LA
Registered: 02-21-2000
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I saw this last week and liked it overall.
Agreed the Cason pick is peculiar given he's kind of a zone guy as I understand it. There are other questionable picks early...DE Lawrence Jackson in the 1st? Hey, anything's possible I guess. I really liked the rest of the picks. I'm not crazy about Ray Rice but given the depth at RB this year (and WR for that matter) it shouldn't surprise if offensive skill guys are also BPA's. The PITT guy was good at the SB; solid OL who finished from what I saw. Given the versatility it'd make sense. Either way it'd be shocking if GB actually keeps both of those #2's. Dropping from the #56 makes the most sense to me (assuming GB has numerous comparable players still there). The difference b/w who's selected #70 or whatever and #56 will be negligible I suspect. Should be interesting. |
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Registered: 09-22-2002
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I don't get the Cason love either. I really think the only two guys that fit Green Bay's scheme in the first round are Jenkins and McKelvin, and they are likely long gone. I think a O-line pick makes more sense simply because of the depth of talent and the availability of "next tier" talent at CB in the 2nd and 3rd round.
PackerUpdate has a interesting take about TT's drafts.. The biggest point was the player has to fit MM's system. I think this is definitely the prescription that will keep Packers fans guessing. I believe it's also the reason why TT's first draft looks somewhat out of place considering it was pre-MM. |
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Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
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If you want to take about schemes that's OK but Cason is a solid player and better yet he's a tough competitor and from what I've read he's a hard worker. So he played in more zone coverage- big deal. Carroll was supposed to be the ideal man cover corner prospect and he sucked for a variety of reasons.
The fact of the matter is that there are no "great" CB prospects this year but there are a number of guys worth taking early in the draft and I think it is pretty important they address that position with one of their first 3 picks. |
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Location: IL
Registered: 06-26-2007
Posts: 458
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I can see that this draft is being set up for another "Gregg Olsen" moment when Thompson does not take a TE or CB in the frist round. I can see the seven-year-old kids now lining up to get their faces on camera up at Lambeau and boo when the first-round pick is announced. That crazy teenager who threw a tantrum that wound up on you tube when they didn't take Olsen is choreographing his routine for this year already. The fact that there aren't any CB's worthy of being taken in top five means that the guys in the third- and fourth-rounds will be just as good as the ones in the first two rounds. There ain't gonna be much separation between this years' crop of mediocre cornerbacks, as is the case most years. Now the nonsense of taking a TE in the first round is starting again. as if the packers don't already have Donald Lee and a slew of excellent WR's. People never learn, I suppose, or they just don't want to learn. |
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