Bavetta is one of the refs supposedly being investigated. A guy over at realgm put together some stats. These numbers don't prove anything but they are interesting nevertheless. There are a lot of numbers here, the guy did a lot of homework.

These numbers are from 1991-present.

The Bucks are 31-48-1 against the spread in games reffed by Bavetta.

The Bucks are 13-20 Straight Up when they are favored in a Bavetta reffed game.

12-29 Overall on the road
12-27 Overall at home.

Record by year (Playoffs included):

91-92: 1-5
92-93: 3-2
93-94: 1-5
94-95: 3-3
95-96: 1-2
96-97: 0-2
97-98: 2-1
98-99: 1-2
99-00: 3-6
00-01: 0-7
01-02: 1-5
02-03: 3-2
03-04: 1-5
04-05: 1-5
05-06: 0-1
06-07: 2-2
07-08: 1-1

Overall: 24-56
Playoffs: 1-5

The Bucks are 11-19 when they are the "better team"

The Bucks are 4-8 when they are the "better team" and at home.

The Bucks are 9-27 when they are .500 or better at the end of that season.

The Bucks are 14-18 when their opponent is below .500 at the end of the season.

The Bucks are 10-38 when the opponent is .500 or better at the end of the year.

The Bucks are 11-26 in games decided by 6 or less

The Bucks are 6-13 in games decided by 7-10

The Bucks are 4-4 in games decided by 20+

In the 80 games the Bucks were outscored by 307 total points (3.84 per game). The Opponents shot 319 (3.99 per game) more free throws than the Bucks in those same 80 games.

48 times the opponent shot more free throws than the Bucks
23 times the Bucks shot more free throws than the opponent.
9 times it was equal.

24 times the opponent shot 10+ more free throws than the Bucks
8 times the Bucks shot 10+ more free throws than the opp.

21 times the opponent shot 60%+ of the total free throws shot in the game.
6 times the Bucks shot 60%+ of the total free throws in the game.

I also looked at games where the free throw differantial was greater than or equal to the point differential in the game. So if the Bucks shot 15 fewer free throws in a game and lost by 10 then it would qualify. I call these "fishy" games. Another rule is that the free throw differential must be 10 or more. So if the Bucks lose by 1 and the opponent shoots 1 more free throw...this doesnt count as a fishy game. They would have had to at least been outshot by 10 at the line for that to count.

There were a total of 20 "fishy" games. 16 were in favor of the opponent. 4 in favor of the Bucks.

So to recap...

16 game losing streak when Bavetta refs (just happens to be during the best few years in this 17 year study.

Bucks win 30% of the games Bavetta refs.

Bucks shoot more free throws only 28.8% of the time

Bucks only win 37% of the time when they are the "better" team.

Bucks only win 30.7% of the time AT HOME.

Bucks are 9-27 .250 when they are .500 or better at the end of that season.

In games where one team shoots 10+ more free throws, it is the Bucks opponent that shoots those extra ones 75% of the time.

When there is a "fishy" game (as described above) it is the opponent who is the benefit 80% of the time.

When one team shoots 60% or more of the total free throws it it the opponent that benefits 78% of the time.

In this post ill list the active refs records from 91-92, but only those which have reffed a minimum of 50 games in that span. Playoffs count. Sorted from worst PCT to best PCT.

ACTIVE REFS (MINIMUM 50 GAMES)

DICK BAVETTA 24-56 .300
SCOTT WALL 19-36 .345
LUIS GRILLO 25-45 .357
TOMMY NUNEZ 24-42 .364
TOM WASHINGTON 22-37 .373
DAVID JONES 28-47 .373
BILL SPOONER 25-40 .385
DERRICK STAFFORD 32-51 .386
MICHAEL SMITH 25-38 .397
JACK NIES 31-47 .397
JOE FORTE 31-47 .397
TONY BROTHERS 25-37 .403
GREG WILLARD 33-46 .418
JOE DEROSA 31-43 .419
BENNETT SALVATORE 31-43 .419
KEN MAUER 34-46 .425
JOE CRAWFORD 34-45 .430
DAN CRAWFORD 41-53 .436
RON GARRETSON 36-46 .439
STEVE JAVIE 36-44 .450
ED F RUSH 40-48 .455
BENNIE ADAMS 25-30 .455
JIM CLARK 36-43 .456
MONTY MCCUTCHEN 30-35 .462
DEREK RICHARDSON 24-28 .462
SEAN CORBIN 28-32 .467
BOB DELANEY 38-42 .475
MIKE CALLAHAN 32-35 .478
MARK WUNDERLICH 39-38 .506
JAMES CAPERS 31-29 .517
JESS KERSEY 39-33 .542
RON OLESIAK 39-32 .549
SCOTT FOSTER 34-24 .586

Dick Bavetta 9-27 .250
Scott Wall 11-18 .379
Jack Nies 16-23 .410
Phil Robinson 12-14 .462
Tony Brothers 12-14 .462
Ken Mauer 12-14 .462
Joe Forte 13-14 .481
Jim Clark 13-14 .481
Ed F Rush 16-16 .500
Bennie Adams 13-13 .500
Mark Wunderlich 14-14 .500
Derek Richardson 14-13 .519
Joe Crawford 17-15 .531
Greg Willard 16-13 .552
Bob Delaney 15-12 .556
James Capers 15-12 .556
Dan Crawford 19-15 .559
Bennett Salvatore 18-14 .563
Sean Corbin 16-12 .571
Ron Garretson 15-10 .600
Marc Davis 15-10 .600
Steve Javie 18-11 .621
Joe Derosa 17-10 .630
David Jones 18-8 .692
Ron Olesiak 20-8 .714

This time its each refs 2000-01 record (By far the best Bucks season in the study). Sorted by losses (most to fewest).

2000-01 REF RECORDS:

Dick Bavetta 0-7
Ted Bernhardt 3-5
Luis Grillo 3-4
Bernie Fryer 4-4
Jim Clark 2-4
Terry Durham 4-4
Marc Davis 2-4
Bill Kennedy 1-3
Monty Mccutchen 3-3
Joe Forte 1-3
Bennie Adams 2-3
Joe Crawford 5-3
Dan Crawford 2-3
Bennett Salvatore 4-3
Steve Javie 4-3
Jim Kinsey 3-3
Ronnie Nunn 5-3
Nolan Fine 1-2
Kevin Fehr 1-2
Phil Robinson 2-2
Ed F Rush 5-2
Mark Wunderlich 3-2
Michael Smith 2-2
Greg Willard 5-2
Bob Delaney 6-2
Dee Kantner 2-2
Derrick Stafford 3-2
Mike Callahan 4-2
Ron Garretson 4-2
Joe Derosa 7-2
Don Vaden 7-2
Ron Olesiak 4-2
Hugh Evans 5-1
George Toliver 2-1
Scott Wall 2-1
Violet Palmer 2-1
Jack Nies 5-1
Tony Brothers 4-1
Tommy Nunez 0-1
Courtney Kirkland 4-1
Derek Richardson 2-1
Scott Foster 3-1
Tom Washington 2-1
Leon Wood 3-1
Leroy Richardson 3-1
James Capers 4-1
Rodney Mott 4-1
Blaine Reichelt 1-1
Sean Corbin 5-1
Hue Hollins 5-1
Jess Kersey 3-1
Tim Donaghy 3-1
David Jones 2-1
Hank Armstrong 2-1
Gary Benson 4-0
Bill Spooner 2-0
Jason Phillips 4-0
Mike Mathis 3-0
Rashan Michel 2-0

Dick Bavetta is as crocked as they come. It was plain obvious when the accusations were made that he was one of the "company" men. Dick humped Philly to the Finals when the Bucks went against Thugverson. In fact, I believe he did game 7 and made the Allen call when he was mugged, beat, and called for the charge on Bell.

They were talking briefly on the 01 ECF on FOxSports radio this morning. Included a soundbyte by Jim Rome on how the Bucks won't advance with the refs help

That's a really eye opening stat

What I find interesting is that from 1999-2002 the Bucks were decent but the Knick Bavetta record is crazy.

any wonder why bavetta and sir charles are friends....

hey dick man, i layed 3 large on us tonight....

no problems chuck, i'll expect 10%

Wow... all I can say is wow.

The running joke in the league has him as Knick Bavetta.

One thing I think would be interesting would be to put up the same stats for NON-Bevetta games.

Then, if you did things like this.

Home games - Bevetta and non-Bevetta - N (# games) pct Lost.

If you assumed the overall quality of opponent is equal between Bavetta and non-Bavetta and if N would be significant for both, the % lost figure should be close to the same.

Given this, I just know there has to be a rigorous statistical approach, with just those numbers, that would output the following.

Likelihood the two populations are not the same - this would be a percentage.
Confidence Interval of Likelihood - the intervals would probably have normal distribution demographic and so would be values for +/- 1 sigma.

This could be rigorously done and it wouldn't be that hard. I don't know the approach, but I'll bet I did it back in college.

It's not a big deal.

If the populations are OBVIOUSLY statistically different and if the quality level of the opponent is essentially the same, the outstanding contribution is Bavetta.

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Originally posted by phaedrus:
One thing I think would be interesting would be to put up the same stats for NON-Bevetta games.

There are a lot of stats posted above for non Bavetta games.

Vegas,

I don't understand.

Is it impossible that two people ref'ed the same game? Like, you give records for other ref's, but does this mean none of the games were games Bavetta also ref'ed?