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 Location: Uxbridge, MA
Registered: 05-02-2000
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Top story on ESPN.
Like we all knew, anyway. Kings-Lakers western finals. I hope this BLOWS UP. Make the NBA look like pro wrestling. |
 Location: NW Chicago Burbs
Registered: 02-07-2000
Posts: 17924
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Stern keeping a stiff upper lip- but I think this is going to get nasty. They try to discredit him, but that series had EVERYONE scratching their heads...
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 Location: Hastings, MN
Registered: 02-03-2000
Posts: 12370
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Always thought game 7 in 2000 between the Lakers adn Blazers was completely rigged. The blazers couldn't buy a call in the 4th quarter and the Lakers erased a 15 point lead and won.
Also, the 2006 Finals were a complete farce. The Mavs got royally screwed that series. |
 Location: "beat me like a rented mule" - Henry
Registered: 02-02-2000
Posts: 19807
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Stern is a criminal.
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 Location: Back from the Penalty box!
Registered: 04-11-2002
Posts: 3656
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I need to watch the 2001 ECF again to re-visualize why Stern is a crook. Anyone know where I can get the videos?
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Location: Uxbridge, MA
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I thought the biggie was Kings Lakers Game 6 IN Sacramento.
Wasn't there like a 15-20 free throw shot disparity in the fourth quarter alone? It was an absolute disgrace. Man, I don't want to judge the guy, but Stern - what I FEEL I "read" about him is that he is a snake. Just a complete snake. |
 Location: John Clay's Rubicon
Registered: 03-06-2000
Posts: 6695
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I'm shocked.
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 Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
Posts: 16506
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The ironic thing (or is it) was that just about every one of these "fix" scenarios have the Lakers involved. Big market, big ratings, you figure it out.
LA shot 27 free throws in the 4th quarter in that game 6 against the Kings- 27!!!! Anyone that has ever watched the NBA can admit it was a little fishy at the very least.
A lot of people mocked Ray Allen about his comments but I don't think he was that far off. |
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Location: Back from the Penalty box!
Registered: 04-11-2002
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66 more FT for Philly for the series.
That's about 10 per game. It was really noticeable in games Philly "Had to win" Game 1 and Game 5 looked to be officiated fairly. Other than that.. it's the usual regulars.. Bavetta, Delany, and other cronies. I was looking for Marc Davis... as that guy loves to screw Milwaukee. |
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Location: Uxbridge, MA
Registered: 05-02-2000
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That is a statistical aberration that deserves speculation of referee involvement. I would bet for playoff games that if you did a statistical analysis, it would be off the charts. |
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Location: Back from the Penalty box!
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great old article.
If you are a believer you need to re-read this. Even if you aren't.... http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2001/2001/0531/1208098.html |
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Location: Back from the Penalty box!
Registered: 04-11-2002
Posts: 3656
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The biggest farce of the whole LA Lakers thing to me is that Kobe is not in a Colorado Jail playing catcher for some 400lb white dude named Bubba Earl. Dude rapes a girl.. gets away with it. Screw the Free Throws. |
 Location: Dayton, OH
Registered: 02-18-2000
Posts: 5986
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I think this story may have some legs to it. I will get the link but the FBI has been asking around about another referee named Bavetta (sp?)
I am most definately a believer about the NBA refs. I have posted this in here before but my Dad used to know a retired ref who told him about stuff like this going on all the way back to the early 80's. |
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Location: Formerly from the home of your soon to be World Champion Vikings! Secure your spot on the parade route today!
Registered: 08-10-2001
Posts: 16506
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It's also very unusual that a team like Portland gave up like a 15 point lead in the 2000 Western Conference Finals against (you guessed it) the Lakers.
I really enjoy the NBA but I think the integrity of the league is in serious question right now. Many people have speculated for a while now that the NBA playoffs were "fixed" in that it seemed like outcomes were directed by the officiating, and there are a ton of examples to draw from. -1998 Utah/Chicago series -2000 LA/Portland series -2001 Milwaukee/Philly series -2002 LA/Kings series -2006 Phoenix/San Antonio series -2008 LA/San Antonio series I'm sure there are other examples as well |
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Location: Hastings, MN
Registered: 02-03-2000
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BS. Yeah he tore her cornhole up. It was obvious from day 1 he never raped the girl. She was a skank and looking to make money. The day she is supposed to take the stand she drops the charges. He's not the first pro athlete to go around banging sluts and he isn't the last. They did make a good point on Mike & Mike this morning that if it is indeed rigged then why are such snoozer teams like the Spurs, Pistons, Nets, etc in the finals so many times in the last decade? There really has not been an appealing matchup in the Finals (until this year) since 98. I guess the Pacers/Lakers finals was a decent series. If they are rigging the games (entirely possible and wouldn't doubt anything) they have been doing a terrible job the last 10 yrs. The last 3 Finals that the Spurs were in were the 3 lowest rated Finals in the last 25 years. The one against the Nets and the Cavs were the 2 lowest rated since they started being rated in 1976. |
 Location: Somewhere
Registered: 02-02-2000
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Exactly why the Lakers and Celtics had "fluke" trades...and are in the Finals maybe?
How about the fact Kobe wanted out of LA, but yet he's still there? Or how about the fact the Heat won right after Shaq went there. Byron Russell was pushed down by Jordan in 1998 with the biggest offensive foul in NBA history that was so obvious Steve Wonder saw the play. |
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Location: Hastings, MN
Registered: 02-03-2000
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That part I do agree with. The whole way the Lakers and Celts improved from bad/mediocre to championship caliber with such lopsided trades was definitely fishy.
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Location: John Clay's Rubicon
Registered: 03-06-2000
Posts: 6695
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The draft lottery for years, the whole Jordan leaving the game BS, the list goes on and on and on ...
There has been a lot of criminality going on ... like many have said here, Stern has nothing on the Mob nor the Wall Street trading firms! |
 Location: everybody be more like me
Registered: 01-07-2004
Posts: 2706
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Lakers got 40 FT's that entire game. 13 FT's in the first 3 quarters combined and then all of a sudden they double that total in 1 quarter 16 FT's in the final 3 minutes alone. As a Kings fan that series still haunts me. Kings did blow it in Game 7 and missed 15 FT's, etc but the point is that Game 7 probably shouldn't have happened As the years have gone on I'm finding it harder and harder to watch the NBA, especially in the playoffs |
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Location: Uxbridge, MA
Registered: 05-02-2000
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I bothered to write the following to Colin Cowhered (ESPN The Herd)
Dear Mr Cowherd, I listen to your radio show during my commute. I consider your sport’s sensibilities to be “spot on.” Your practical sense of sports resonates with me in almost every instance. There have been exceptions, but they have been mild. Except one. You assert that there is no fixing in the NBA – not even LA-Sacramento Game 6. Do you have inside knowledge that this is so? Did God grace you with a vision or something? I just read the following.
27 free throws in one quarter? Coupled with fouls where people were not even touched? (Wow, that would foul Shaq out within 2 minutes.) Coupled with the beneficiary being a media darling? Coupled with, lose and the media darling is bounced out of the playoffs? To be intuitively statistical about this, this is what one calls a statistical anomaly of epic proportions. This is an event that is WAY beyond 3 sigma. It’s the kind of thing where anyone with half an objective brain knows – a special effect was introduced to the process. It CHANGED. And with all that, YOU KNOW. Without inside knowledge, you are certain (certain!) there was no fix. Now, I am not certain there WAS a fix, but I sure am not certain there was not. Here is something else I am no longer certain about. I am no longer certain you are not fixed. Sincerely, Tony Barbieri |
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Location: everybody be more like me
Registered: 01-07-2004
Posts: 2706
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Kobe elbowed Bibby in the nose late in the game, causing him to bleed. No foul was called and it forced the Kings to call their final timeout to stop Bibby from bleeding and so they could keep him on the floor during the crucial point of that game
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