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Originally posted by Chronic Hobbit:
The thing I want to know is--who was the woman who threw herself overboard and why did she do it? Freaky stuff.

That girl that offed herself was Regina ... she's the one that answered the satellite phone a few times, but not much else is known about her. The people on the boat are getting sick, and some are starting to lose their minds .. presumably because of their location in regards to the island.

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
When they flash forward to the scenes of what we believe are the Oceanic 6 (O6) back on the mainland, the show could also be flashing farther forward than we think. If so, then we could be wrong about some of the O6. We know Jack, Kate, and Hurley are O6 because of their discussions of "going back". The scenes with Sayid, just showed him working for Ben. This could theoretically happen after many more Losties are eventually rescued. Same with Sun. Or maybe I'm forgetting something. I don't think the show would flash forward that far, but it is Lost afterall, anything can happen.

Do we know where the Others are? The last I recall, they were in a beach camp. Ben and his daughter left them to meet up with Jack's group at the radio tower. Ben was subsequently taken prisoner ("right where he wants to be".

My guess with Walt - he is with the Others, has learned how to time travel such as when he appeared to Locke in the Dharma purge pit.

I think it's safe to say Sayid is an O6. He said as much prior to killing that guy on the golf course.

The definate Oceananic 6 are (at least in my opinion):

Jack
Kate
Hurley
Sayid
Sun

and maybe Aaron.

You had to be a passenger on the plan to be a part of that group .. Aaron was on the plane, but wasn't born until a few weeks after they crashed. I don't know if he counts or not, or if he has somehow been kept a secret from the public. Hard to say .. we'll find out soon enough.

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
Do we know where the Others are? The last I recall, they were in a beach camp. Ben and his daughter left them to meet up with Jack's group at the radio tower. Ben was subsequently taken prisoner ("right where he wants to be".

When Ben left The Others, he told Richard to go to the Temple. (I'm pretty sure that's what he said.) Best guess is that is the place with the remnants of the giant statue, last seen at the end of Season 2 (Sayid, Sun, and Jin saw it from the boat).

As for the Oceanic Six, it depends how much trust you can place in ABC's promos when they're previewing the next week's episode. Before the Kate ep, they said you'd learn the identity of another of the Six. Before last night's, they said you'd learn the identity of the last of them. If those can be trusted, we know the Six, and they include Aaron.

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Originally posted by Max:

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
Do we know where the Others are? The last I recall, they were in a beach camp. Ben and his daughter left them to meet up with Jack's group at the radio tower. Ben was subsequently taken prisoner ("right where he wants to be".

When Ben left The Others, he told Richard to go to the Temple. (I'm pretty sure that's what he said.) Best guess is that is the place with the remnants of the giant statue, last seen at the end of Season 2 (Sayid, Sun, and Jin saw it from the boat).

As for the Oceanic Six, it depends how much trust you can place in ABC's promos when they're previewing the next week's episode. Before the Kate ep, they said you'd learn the identity of another of the Six. Before last night's, they said you'd learn the identity of the last of them. If those can be trusted, we know the Six, and they include Aaron.

Yep .. that's correct .. Richard and the "Others" were heading for the temple last we heard.

That O6 list would be the conventional view GBPackfan, and I would agree. But again, it's Lost - all conventional bets are off. IIRC, all Sayid said was that he was the beneficiary of a large settlement from the airline. Now according to last night, Widmore staged a crash recovery site with all passenger /corpses accounted for. If civilization was told, and believed, that there were no survivors, and that all on board were accounted for - what happens when 6 people somehow show up? Something does not add up here. It could simply be that the revelation from the captain about the staged recovery is false information too. Or the scene with Sayid occurs after the world finds out that the crash recovery was staged, and probably more people have returned to the mainland. That scene could be years into the future. Probably not, but possible I think. Basically, I don't believe any of the leading (misleading? information the network lets loose.

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Originally posted by Max:

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
Do we know where the Others are? The last I recall, they were in a beach camp. Ben and his daughter left them to meet up with Jack's group at the radio tower. Ben was subsequently taken prisoner ("right where he wants to be".

When Ben left The Others, he told Richard to go to the Temple. (I'm pretty sure that's what he said.) Best guess is that is the place with the remnants of the giant statue, last seen at the end of Season 2 (Sayid, Sun, and Jin saw it from the boat).

As for the Oceanic Six, it depends how much trust you can place in ABC's promos when they're previewing the next week's episode. Before the Kate ep, they said you'd learn the identity of another of the Six. Before last night's, they said you'd learn the identity of the last of them. If those can be trusted, we know the Six, and they include Aaron.

The temple. You guys have a great memory.

I've wondered about that big statue for awhile too.

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
That O6 list would be the conventional view, and I would agree. But again, it's Lost - all conventional bets are off. IIRC, all Sayid said was that he was the beneficiary of a large settlement from the airline. Now according to last night, Widmore staged a crash recovery site with all passenger /corpses accounted for. If civilization was told, and believed, that there were no survivors, and that all on board were accounted for - what happens when 6 people some how show up? Something does not add up here. It could simply be that the revelation from the captain about the staged recovery is false information too.

The captain last night pretty much blamed Ben for the staging of the wreck, or at least that's the way I took it.

I agree though about the O6 ... there could be some twists and turns as to who the actual O6 are.

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Originally posted by gblinda:

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Originally posted by Hauser:
So, now there are SIX

actually, we know of 5 now...Jin is dead, or at least appears to be dead but the date of death on the tombstone is the date of the crash, which we know not to be true. He could actually still be on the island and Sun is so upset saying I miss you so much, because she left him there...or he's dead...

I don't think Aaron is one of the 6, I really don't so we're left here still. Next week is the final episode for awhile and the Michaelcentric one so he could be the 6th. I'm going to assume that Ben has Walt somewhere and that's why Michael is willing to do his bidding.

I think Aaron is one of the six and IIRC, the advertisements for last night's episode was mentioning that we would find out the last of the Oceanic Six. Maybe I heard it wrong

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
Now according to last night, Widmore staged a crash recovery site with all passenger /corpses accounted for. If civilization was told, and believed, that there were no survivors, and that all on board were accounted for - what happens when 6 people somehow show up?

We don't know what happens regarding the Widmore staging because that hasn't happened (on TV) yet. The O6 hadn't returned yet when last night's episode took place, thus the staging thing was still believeable. Few, other than the ship's crew knew that there were survivors.

I think how they are going to explain that is they won't be taking the plane up so they're just assuming that all onboard are dead. I would think in a situation like that it would be pretty tough to bring bodies up.

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Originally posted by Hauser:

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Originally posted by gblinda:

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Originally posted by Hauser:
So, now there are SIX

actually, we know of 5 now...Jin is dead, or at least appears to be dead but the date of death on the tombstone is the date of the crash, which we know not to be true. He could actually still be on the island and Sun is so upset saying I miss you so much, because she left him there...or he's dead...

I don't think Aaron is one of the 6, I really don't so we're left here still. Next week is the final episode for awhile and the Michaelcentric one so he could be the 6th. I'm going to assume that Ben has Walt somewhere and that's why Michael is willing to do his bidding.

I think Aaron is one of the six and IIRC, the advertisements for last night's episode was mentioning that we would find out the last of the Oceanic Six. Maybe I heard it wrong

Supposedly the show creators said in a recent podcast that Aaron is not one of the Oceanic 6. I don't know that to be fact though.

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
That O6 list would be the conventional view GBPackfan, and I would agree. But again, it's Lost - all conventional bets are off. IIRC, all Sayid said was that he was the beneficiary of a large settlement from the airline. Now according to last night, Widmore staged a crash recovery site with all passenger /corpses accounted for. If civilization was told, and believed, that there were no survivors, and that all on board were accounted for - what happens when 6 people somehow show up? Something does not add up here. It could simply be that the revelation from the captain about the staged recovery is false information too. Or the scene with Sayid occurs after the world finds out that the crash recovery was staged, and probably more people have returned to the mainland. That scene could be years into the future. Probably not, but possible I think. Basically, I don't believe any of the leading (misleading? information the network lets loose.

There is always a chance that the world is not aware that Sayid is alive. The man is an undercover assassin for Ben. Does it benefit him to be so well known? He may not be one of the O6. Then again, that wouldn't explain how he got the airline settlement.

'Lost' resonates from 911 near Pittsburgh.

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
That O6 list would be the conventional view GBPackfan, and I would agree. But again, it's Lost - all conventional bets are off. IIRC, all Sayid said was that he was the beneficiary of a large settlement from the airline. Now according to last night, Widmore staged a crash recovery site with all passenger /corpses accounted for. If civilization was told, and believed, that there were no survivors, and that all on board were accounted for - what happens when 6 people somehow show up? Something does not add up here. It could simply be that the revelation from the captain about the staged recovery is false information too. Or the scene with Sayid occurs after the world finds out that the crash recovery was staged, and probably more people have returned to the mainland. That scene could be years into the future. Probably not, but possible I think. Basically, I don't believe any of the leading (misleading? information the network lets loose.

There is always a chance that the world is not aware that Sayid is alive. The man is an undercover assassin for Ben. Does it benefit him to be so well known? He may not be one of the O6. Then again, that wouldn't explain how he got the airline settlement.

The gal in the restaurant he met, and then later shot found him to be familiar looking. I take it she had seen him on television due to his O6 celebrity.

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Originally posted by grbaypack:

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
That O6 list would be the conventional view GBPackfan, and I would agree. But again, it's Lost - all conventional bets are off. IIRC, all Sayid said was that he was the beneficiary of a large settlement from the airline. Now according to last night, Widmore staged a crash recovery site with all passenger /corpses accounted for. If civilization was told, and believed, that there were no survivors, and that all on board were accounted for - what happens when 6 people somehow show up? Something does not add up here. It could simply be that the revelation from the captain about the staged recovery is false information too. Or the scene with Sayid occurs after the world finds out that the crash recovery was staged, and probably more people have returned to the mainland. That scene could be years into the future. Probably not, but possible I think. Basically, I don't believe any of the leading (misleading? information the network lets loose.

There is always a chance that the world is not aware that Sayid is alive. The man is an undercover assassin for Ben. Does it benefit him to be so well known? He may not be one of the O6. Then again, that wouldn't explain how he got the airline settlement.

The gal in the restaurant he met, and then later shot found him to be familiar looking. I take it she had seen him on television due to his O6 celebrity.

She probably watches LOST!!

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Originally posted by grbaypack:

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
That O6 list would be the conventional view GBPackfan, and I would agree. But again, it's Lost - all conventional bets are off. IIRC, all Sayid said was that he was the beneficiary of a large settlement from the airline. Now according to last night, Widmore staged a crash recovery site with all passenger /corpses accounted for. If civilization was told, and believed, that there were no survivors, and that all on board were accounted for - what happens when 6 people somehow show up? Something does not add up here. It could simply be that the revelation from the captain about the staged recovery is false information too. Or the scene with Sayid occurs after the world finds out that the crash recovery was staged, and probably more people have returned to the mainland. That scene could be years into the future. Probably not, but possible I think. Basically, I don't believe any of the leading (misleading? information the network lets loose.

There is always a chance that the world is not aware that Sayid is alive. The man is an undercover assassin for Ben. Does it benefit him to be so well known? He may not be one of the O6. Then again, that wouldn't explain how he got the airline settlement.

The gal in the restaurant he met, and then later shot found him to be familiar looking. I take it she had seen him on television due to his O6 celebrity.

Good point.

One of you mentioned Entertainment Weekly. In an interview in a recent issue (the one with Will Ferrell on the cover) Lindelof and Cuse stated specifically that you'd know who all of the Oceanic 6 were by the seventh episode (which was last week's). Unless someone is going to say they're including Ben (who wasn't on the plane, obviously) the six are, officially, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Aaron, Hurley, and Sun.

Good episode tonight .. Michael centric. The O6 is officially Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Aaron, and Sun ... end of mystery .. or so it seems.

What does everyone thing of Michael not being able to kill himself ... apperantly course correction and fate work both ways. Charlie was unable to escape his own demise, and now we see that Michael couldn't end his life although he desperately wanted too. He had things to do ... we've heard that before. Hurley was told by ghost Charlie that he had things to do.

Before anyone gets confused .. Mr. Friendly (Tom from the "Others") is now dead. Sawyer shot him dead on the beach presumably after the events of tonights flashbacks took place. There was said to be a gay character in Lost .. we found out tonight it was Tom .. or so it clearly appeared when he smooched his little man pal.

I'm guessing Michael will wind up being the person in the casket ... perhaps Captain Gault will be the one to put him out of his misery. Who knows .. maybe he'll find a way out of that situation.

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Originally posted by grbaypack:
Before anyone gets confused .. Mr. Friendly (Tom from the "Others") is now dead. Sawyer shot him dead on the beach presumably after the events of tonights flashbacks took place. There was said to be a gay character in Lost .. we found out tonight it was Tom .. or so it clearly appeared when he smooched his little man pal.

The freighter had already arrived at the island (Naomi was on it) when Tom is killed, so yeah, last night's scene with Tom in NY is comfortably before.

At the beginning of last season, right after Jack, Kate, and Sawyer have been captured by the Others, Kate is allowed to shower. Mr. Friendly is hanging around and she says, "Do you mind?" He says quite pointedly, "You're not my type," in a way that doesn't suggest he's talking about her hair color, but rather her gender. So, there was a hint way back when.

First five eps of the season were great, last 3 not so much. But, they had some ground that had to be covered. Should be fun after the break, when they squeeze about 8 eps of planned story into only 5.

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Originally posted by Max:

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Originally posted by grbaypack:
Before anyone gets confused .. Mr. Friendly (Tom from the "Others") is now dead. Sawyer shot him dead on the beach presumably after the events of tonights flashbacks took place. There was said to be a gay character in Lost .. we found out tonight it was Tom .. or so it clearly appeared when he smooched his little man pal.

The freighter had already arrived at the island (Naomi was on it) when Tom is killed, so yeah, last night's scene with Tom in NY is comfortably before.

At the beginning of last season, right after Jack, Kate, and Sawyer have been captured by the Others, Kate is allowed to shower. Mr. Friendly is hanging around and she says, "Do you mind?" He says quite pointedly, "You're not my type," in a way that doesn't suggest he's talking about her hair color, but rather her gender. So, there was a hint way back when.

First five eps of the season were great, last 3 not so much. But, they had some ground that had to be covered. Should be fun after the break, when they squeeze about 8 eps of planned story into only 5.

Yep, I remembered those comments Tom made to Kate, so it wasn't a big reveal to me either.

I thought last nights episode was a little better than the last two, but not up to the level of the beginning episodes this season. I think that Desmond episode three weeks ago was one of my all-time favorites.

Does anyone else think the French woman is really not dead? No blood. THey said last week someone would die and I think that someone is whats her names boyfriend. They showed Ben looking at him with his arm around her. Soon after he sent them on their mission to the temple. The French woman was quick to agree on the decision. I feel this way since pregnant women die on the island and Ben proably relayed this to the French woman who is the girls mom. It would be a matter of time before the girl is knocked up by that dude.